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Two U.S. F-18 fighter jets flying in tandem entered Venezuelan airspace around noon Tuesday, circling over the Gulf of Venezuela in the latest show of force against the regime of Nicolás Maduro.

The flyover — carried out despite the Venezuelan regime’s possession of a number of Russian-made anti-aircraft batteries — took place less than 100 miles northeast of Maracaibo, Venezuela’s second-largest city. Thousands of Venezuelans tracked the aircraft online through specialized tracking websites, watching as the jets traced a bow-tie-shaped pattern over the gulf.

The fighters remained inside Venezuelan airspace for at least 40 minutes at an altitude of roughly 25,000 feet before heading north and leaving the area.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (20 children)

I hope one of the nations that we are bullying will defend themselves. I’d LOVE to see a US F18 go down. Shit, I’d like to see a carrier go down.

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Escalation is exactly what they're looking for

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I know. I just want some one to figure out a way to defend themselves against us.

[–] ethnss@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Afghans did a pretty decent job.

Poor nations don't have to 'beat' the US. They just need to wear it down until it's no longer worth the resources to continue fighting.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

I mean, yes, but this "victory" came at the cost of two hundred thousand dead, God knows how many wounded, twenty years they could've used to develop their country and even tighter Taliban control than before the US invasion. Afghans managed to kick the US out, but they did not succeed at defending anything. If I was Venezuelan my lesson from this would be "absolutely don't get into war with the US," because such a war would leave their country in ruin just like Afghanistan.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I guess. It’s frustrating that it takes so long and involves so much suffering.

Despite the deep pockets and general indifference to casualties, I think that the American populace will react to sudden large losses. Like, we collectively don’t seem to care if 3 thousand US troops are killed during a prolonged engagement lasting years. But if 3 thousand died in a single event, like a ship sinking, people would be fucking pissed. A lot of that anger would be channeled into a desire for retaliation. Some of it would also be directed at the leadership that put that ship in harms way.

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