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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[-] kadu@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes? SMS is ancient, limited, and Apple's added proprietary layer on top of it isn't interoperable so "most widespread protocol" doesn't even make sense.

There's a reason Asia, Europe and South America aren't using SMS in 2023.

And you know, it's a smartphone, installing apps is kinda the whole point.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Right, the rest of the world uses…. other proprietary messaging apps that have no interoperability between them. You can’t talk from signal to WhatsApp, or WhatsApp to telegram, or telegram to signal. You all need to be using the same messaging app.

The reason why the rest of the world never really got on with SMS in general is because most providers elsewhere in the world still charge for SMS messages while they’ve been free in the US for over a decade. When you have to pay for texts, you tend to look for an alternative real quick.

[-] BackStabbath@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The thing is the interaction between Apple and Android phones is shit through SMS, and that's entirely Apple's fault. I'm pretty sure everyone would be more happy using an app that works for everyone. If you take India for example, almost everyone uses WhatsApp. There's just straight up no concept of not having WhatsApp. It works the same for both operating systems. So the myth that it'll be difficult to unite with one app isn't really true. I don't like Meta any more than the next person, but the messages are end to end encrypted and lets iPhones and Androids communicate as equals. I'll definitely take that over one group having a superior experience and the other having a subpar one. I doubt you can really refute that, as there isn't really another solution due to Apple's pigheadedness. Sure, you could use Signal to not use a Meta app. But SMS with an uncooperative giant company isn't the way.

[-] corb3t@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

WhatsApp is great at marketing their e2ee, but nobody talks about the fact that they have so many backdoors out in the wild - they're found annually. See: How Jeff Bezos's photos were hacked.

[-] BackStabbath@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

That's fair. I'll be honest when I say that I'm ok with sacrificing some privacy for convenience. Many people on this platform wouldn't agree with that. Not using WhatsApp in my country basically isn't an option unless you just want to be a loner that doesn't contact anyone, and I'm not the type to call people all the time.

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