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[–] grillgamesh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 119 points 6 days ago (42 children)

obligatory firearm safety reminder:

  • rule one is "keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire"
  • rule two is "never point the weapon at anything you are not willing to destroy"
  • rule three is "always treat any weapon as though it is loaded"
  • rule four is "know your target and what lays beyond it"

only by holding each other accountable can we make sure that everyone stays safe and has fun.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago

Thanks. I've never owned, fired, or even held a gun.

I have no intention to. I knew most of these, but I'm glad to see it officially written out like this.

If I'm ever in the position where I need to handle a gun, I can do so more safely then I would have before.

Good work. Keep that shit up.

[–] FlihpFlorp@piefed.zip 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My grandpa who takes me shooting was going over the firearm safety rules and with rule two I was like “that seems extreme” and his response it’s supposed to be, a gun killing or injuring or damaging isn’t as vivid as the word destroy

And yeah for me the other rules kinda seemed a given, bullets move fast and possibly through our hanging rubber targets, the gun probably can’t fire if you don’t give it a squeeze, and as for loaded better safe than sorry.

These rules seemed almost obvious to me, and yet there’s all these guys at the range behaving like absolute idiots

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

My friend's dad stopped us just in time before we tried skeet shooting with a handgun and a rifle. We were on their property, which spanned miles. His dad said, "I don't know what the maximum range is on those, but is that really how you want to find out?"

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Calling a firearm "fun" is already part of the problem

[–] OshaqHennessey@midwest.social 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Have you ever tried it?

There's nothing quite so uniquely irritating as someone intensely critical of something they know very little about.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not wanting to to call the private ownership of deadly weapons fun is hardly "intense". Of anything it undersells the point.

Speaking as someone who enjoyed regular target rifle practice and competitions for the best part of a decade since you insist that matters.

[–] Greddan@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago

Get a BB-gun. Firearms are for killing people.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Firearms are fun. Knives are fun. Martial arts are fun. At least to a decently large number of people. That doesn't mean that their roles in society don't suck.

One might say that the danger (to people, to society...) outweighs the benefits of allowing target shooting as a sport. Maybe, I'd still disagree, but that's an opinion we can argue about. We don't allow people to build their own nuclear reactors for fun, for example. But saying something isn't "fun" is ignoring that a lot of people perceive the world differently.

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[–] cucumberbob@programming.dev 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Disagree. I’m not from the US, so maybe guns being seen as fun is more of a cultural issue in not aware of, but plenty of weapons are seen as fun here in the UK. And while we do have gun crime, I think firearms are seen differently here vs the US.

People will go axe throwing for fun. With Scouts, we shot air rifles on camp a number of times (supervised by people who knew what they were doing). Knife throwing is also a thing. Clay Pigeon shooting is also not uncommon here.

I genuinely believe using a weapon on a (non-living) target is fun for a lot of normal, well adjusted people.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

You are talking about activities.

Sure you can have fun like that. But that doesn't mean that these things should be sold as "fun" like toys are marketed.

They should be marketed to make clear these are dangerous weapons that require training and responsibility, not sold as toys to play around with.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm not American, and this kind of absolute is completely unacceptable.

You're basically fun-shaming.

There's plenty of stuff that's universally disliked, like... Idk, murder.... But that's not the whole reason guns exist. Sport shooting, hunting, event target practice, can be lots of fun to people, and they all involve guns, and no person is harmed, if done correctly.

Stop being so hateful.

I don't even like guns. I've never held, nor fired one. And I wouldn't ever, even slightly, say that there is no "fun" to be had with firearms.

You're a dick.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

Guns should be marketed as dangerous goods that require training and responsibility in owning them.

There is nothing wrong with having fun with firearms, but marketing them like toys is messed up in all kinds of ways.

So yeah, if people want to sell these like they sell candy to children, I am shaming them.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You missed the point. Saying that calling it "fun" is problematic doesn't imply that you can't have fun, of course you can (I have, a tonne). I assume the above comment called it problematic because they weighed the "fun" of gun owners against 40k dead Americans a year and decided maybe we shouldn't be focusing on the entertainment.

You can absolutely have more gun control and not really inhibit firearm sports or hunting BTW. The USA ought to have a monopoly on Olympic shooting medals if that weren't the case 😅

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If they had IDPA or USPSA events they probably would, to be fair. The Olympics only have like four shooting events (coincidentally the ones less popular in America) there's way more shooting sports than that.

Besides, if you look at the wiki's medal table like I just did after you made me curious, it seems to indicate the US has 121 medals (incl all metals) for shooting, and the next highest China has 77, so, I mean, I guess we kinda do anyway?

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Across all sports the US has over 3 times china's all time medal totals in both summer and winter games. Not even having double is a pretty significant underperformance.

Maybe we should conclude gun culture makes a nation better at track and field because people get more practice running away 😂

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

Has the highest amount

WhAt, NoT eVeN tRiPlE?!?!

Lmao ok bud, call me when someone catches up. Cute try though.

[–] brightandshinyobject@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

My ccw class taught updated rules that I think are better:

1: always keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.

2: always keep your weapon pointed in a safe direction. (In a defense situation, the bad guy is a safe direction)

3: always treat as loaded until verified otherwise.(Some firearms need to be dry fired to be cleaned)

4: know your target and it's surroundings. You are responsible for every bullet that leaves your weapon.

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