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Was Christ a last name? Or Iscariot?

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[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 58 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

last names were not a ancient thing that's why a lot of names are based on a profession a lot of times it was based on the father's name that's why you have John's son or transposed to Johnson

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 26 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Or where they were from: da Vinci, Gutenberg. The Bible also doesn't have a lot of action in China where last names were a thing before Jesus.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Did people only get those if they moved, or was everyone from Vinci named da Vinci? (Similar to the Texas Pete premise)

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

These names tend to be attached to them after the fact. I imagine there were a few Leonardos or Johannesses roaming about at their time so much like Alexander became The Great to set him apart from all other Alexanders, these names are scribes' and historians' shorthand to make clear which Leo or Joe you were talking about. And a few centuries of historical telephone later they seem to fit perfectly in our first name/last name system. Which in western Europe really only became officially standardized with the Code Civil from our friend Napoleon.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 11 hours ago

His full name was Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci, so presumably he’d be known locally as Leonardo di ser Piero.

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago

Pretty sure you get these if you move. These names are common in my part of the world and they’re never common in the place the name refers to. At some point an ancestor moved and it stuck to their kids.

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