cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/39214861
this post was submitted on 28 Nov 2025
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Imagine seeing a fascist country like Russia led by a Russian Imperialist who acts more like a mob boss than anything else and being like "yep, what a beacon of Leftism". Nothing says socialized ownership of the means of production like your leadership living lives of extreme luxury as they drift from dacha to dacha.
Sorry but calling Russia fascist and imperialist only shows that you do not know what either term means.
Then explain to me what Imperialism is and how that's not Russia. For Fascism, I'll cut you off because if your definition doesn't resembled https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism, then your just wrong.
Imperialism is an economic relationship, it's not just when countries go to war. Using financial tools (loans, bonds, restructuring, etc) to trap an imperialized nation in underdevelopment and dependency, servicing debts instead of reinvesting in the nation.
You know who is trapping Ukraine in debt right now? Here's some highlights: $23.6 billion in external bonds denominated in dollars and euros, $16 billion to the IMF, and $7.5 billion to a bunch of Western countries (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Poland, Britain and the United States). Private lenders got in on the game too, the largest creditor being $700 million owed to U.S. agribusiness giant Cargill. Overall their external debt adds up to $104.8 billion.
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Oh, and how much does Ukraine owe to Russia? A $3 billion bond and a $600 million loan owed to Russia. A drop in the ocean. Isn't that interesting?
Fascism requires repression of the working class and a the private ownership of finance capital. Russia doesn't particulary repress its workers (not anymore than the west at least), and banks are government controlled. Russia is a bonapartist bourgeoise state, but not fascist.
As for Imperialism: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/imperialism.pdf Happy reading.
Here you go: https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Imperialism#Russian_%22imperialism%22
Who are you taking to
Yeah because allowing Operation Gladio NATO to continue to exist and enlarge further into Europe will definitely bring about Socialist Revolution. How are you this conditioned???
putin is a reactionary, neoliberal piece of shit, likely with ties to nazbols, who's currently running an expansionist campaign from russia. fascism and imperialism are something else
edit: genuinely unsure if the downvotes are coming from putinists mad that i talked shit about putin or from libs who think putin is turbo-hitler and what russia is doing is somehow even remotely as bad as what the west has been doing routinely for over a century