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[-] Kuolematon@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Apple introduced the Lightning connector with the iPhone 5 back in 2012. At the time, it was reversible and superior to the existing Micro-USB connectors. Having been manufactured of a single piece of metal, it was also more durable than the more complex USB connectors.

The first USB-C phone was released in 2015. Samsung released their first USB-C phone, the infamous Galaxy Note 7 in 2016. Their flagship model didn’t use USB-C until 2017.

I find the whole Lighting-hate thing slightly puzzling. Imagine that you come up with a technological solution that solves a problem. Years later, other people finally find a way to solve the same problem. Then they accuse you of being backward. Finally the use of your solution is declared illegal.

Still, now that iPhone indeed has switched to USB-C, Apple's keyboards, headphones and touchpads should follow suit as soon as possible. It makes no sense for them to use Lightning anymore as the ecosystem around it is obsolete.

Edit: another thing that I have found puzzling is how Apple is getting all the hate for proprietary standards, yet at the same time multiple other manufacturers have developed their own proprietary fast charging protocols which means you need both a proprietary cable and a proprietary charger to charge your phones to get charging speeds anywhere close to what is advertised. This was tested by for example Android Authority a few years back. To provide a more up-to-date example, OnePlus 10 Pro supports fast charging at 65 watts but only with its own ”SuperVooc” charger. If you try to charge through USB-PD, you are limited to 18 watts even though PD would theoretically support up to 240 watts. The SuperVooc chargers also refuse to charge any other device at a power higher than 10 watts. It’s interesting how this phenomenon has slipped under most people’s radar.

[-] KonekoSalem@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago

A lot of the hate comes from apple having been a big supporter of the usb-c standard when it was developed, yet they still chose to go the anti-consumer route and stick with lightning for years after they already had a better cable. Now there's landfills of useless lightning cables, while we can still use micro-usb for a lot of other old devices.

They only accuse Apple of being backwards in this case because for anyone else to use it they have to pay a licensing fee to Apple. The new standard (USB-C) is free to add to your device.

[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Did they did improvements on it or it has been always the same identically connector?

[-] Kuolematon@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least one improvement has been made to the spec over the years: the iPhone X / iPhone 8 introduced support for fast charging through the USB-PD standard which meant something had to be upgraded. I'm fairly sure that change did not result in physical changes to the connector though. It has always remained backwards-compatible.

[-] LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

One of the iPad Pros supported USB 3 speeds over lightning, before they transitioned the iPads to USB C. https://www.zdnet.com/article/ipad-pro-lighting-port-works-with-usb-3-0-but-theres-a-catch/

[-] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't have to be a OnePlus charger, it can be any charger that actually has that output.

[-] Ragerist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~Wrong. OnePlus One, released in April, (as invite only) 2014 had USB-C~~.

I was wrong, sorry. It was not until OnePlus two.

[-] pirat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What? I'm not the one you're correcting, but I'll be correcting you. I was invited through their forums, and bought the OnePlus One (EU version), which definitely had micro-USB. Have you really had/seen the OnePlus One with USB-C? I'm confused, but I think you're the one being wrong.

[-] Ragerist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Holy shit sorry. You are right, I was sure it was USB -C.

It must have been the OnePlus two then. I distinctly remember being the only one having USB-C anywhere I went.

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