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The wikipedia contributors were unable to link to a digitization of the book, that's what I mean by improper. I don't own a copy of books written in 223 AD, neither does my local library.
The Donald Harper book you just posted was published in 2012. 2012 came later than the 18th century.
That's not how citations work.
You'll notice under the "General References" section the full citation of the work.
Because the work is cited multiple times, it is appropriate to use a shortened citation, following the proper style according to the wikipedia guidelines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Shortened_footnotes
Say your library did, you would read this book in Classical Chinese? Or would you rely on a translation, probably published much later?
It being listed in the catalog would at least be some indication that the evidence exists, as opposed to an endless linked list of "trust me bro".
Here’s a digitization of the first one and the second one, including a picture of an edition of the work itself. I found it by googling the names of the works in the quoted section.
If that’s not sufficient, I suggest you ask at your local (or most local) university library.
you are doing god's work with the patience of a saint
I'm following this exchange with steadily increasing fascination, still on the fence on whether Pandas exist.
I found a lead. Could help explain why pandas got so famous in China so recently. Taipei Times isn't a great source but it's late and I got excited. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2009/02/08/2003435562
And this: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2151717-the-first-ancestors-of-giant-pandas-probably-lived-in-europe/
Here's a link to the Erya.