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A space for masculine folks to talk about living under patriarchy. Non-masc-identifying users are welcome to participate as well.
Detoxing masculinity since 1990!
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- If you don't have the energy to engage, report and move on.
- This includes past mistakes. If you've overcome extreme reactionary behavior, we'd love to know how.
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- Post the picture of your new grill in !food (feminine people like grills too smh my head).
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- At best, stuff like this is off-topic. At worst, it's reinforcing genders norms..
- If you're not trying to be seen as masculine for your lifestyle content, it's irrelevant to this comm. If you are trying to be seen as masculine, let's have a discussion about why these things are seen as masculine.
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I must admit, I do not cook. I do help with the cleaning though because that's something I can do.
splitting every individual task is a really unlikely way for things to work out, that's normal. like i'm more than happy to do all the prep and cooking myself if someone else commits to keeping on top of the dishes
handing off the wooden spoon with my partner to alternate each stir of the soup
i knew a couple that was about as close to this as you can get a while ago, except it mostly had to do with money. when they said they split everything 50/50 they f'ing meant it.
you eat a scoop of ice cream the other person bought? calculate the cost and how much you ate and pay them for it.
didn't take turns going to the grocery store? pay the other person for the gas they spent going twice in a row as well as for anything they bought that will be shared.
the other person did laundry and you asked them to help do some of yours? calculate the time they spent and pay them for that, along with the water and the detergent.
They actually took vacations alone because they would fight over the cost of whichever thing the other wanted to do not being worth it for the other person.
they fucking lived this way. everyone who knew them thought they were absolutely insane. then they got married and that REALLY blew everyone's minds. we lost touch with them a few years back, don't know if they're still married or not.
while that sounds like actual hell to me, glad they both found someone to match their freak i guess???
that was always what i said after we spent any amount of time with them... "goddamn i'm glad we don't live like that.. i'd myself"