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Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock, a network of AI cameras used by ICE, feds, and police

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[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

Hot take : almost no one actually needs security cameras in their home.

For the very few who do, visible fake cameras do 95% of the job of real cameras with none of the drawbacks.

EDIT : I'll go even further and say an official looking sticker / plaque that says something like "this house has cameras" does at least 50% of the work already.

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Raspberry pi + pi camera + camera case connected to wifi is way better anyway and doesn‘t steal your data

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The only drawbacks to having actual security cameras is when you trust your data to a 3rd party known to use your data for evil.

If you record things locally, there's really zero drawbacks.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Hypothetically the police could come with a warrant and force you to hand over the footage you recorded. It's a higher barrier than if footage is being uploaded to the cloud, but it can still happen.

And even if the cameras are not uploading their footage to the cloud, it still wouldn't sit well with me if every other house has a camera pointed at the public street

Where I live it is technically illegal to record the public street with an automated camera, but it's not really being enforced. So there is Ring cameras everywhere.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

If some shit went down that would require a warrant for the data then I'm guessing I'd probably know and be able to make copies or remove the data beforehand.

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's annoying (or at least, takes some work) to set up, and more expensive.

Out of order cameras are basically (sometimes literally) free, need no wiring work, and don't "accidentally" record any embarrassing / private moments you then have to delete !

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Sure, the effort to set up an actual working thing will always be more than setting up a broken thing.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i need them inside for my cats i like to look at them. but im using chinese cameras with a home server. there's hours of me wacking off saved on there by now

[–] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they let me see who is at the door without coming up from the basement.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

But what if they smack it so it spins around and hits me like in a cartoon? Not sure I can take that risk.