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why try to recreate the bloat of sudo when doas exists?
Probably because things expect sudo to exist
doas mv /usr/bin/doas /usr/bin/sudo
Problem solved!
alpine doesn't have sudo. hell, neither does debian, by default
Yes and how many people daily-drive those?
debian is one of the most common distros
Completely anecdotal but I'm the only person I know who has a stock Debian install that isn't a server, and it's on a laptop that hasn't been connected to the internet for the better part of a decade. I know people who use debian-based distros or use it occasionally for one thing or another (dev, testing, temporary,...) but at least in my experience, the numbers are approaching gentoo in terms of actual dailydriver desktop usage. I'm sure my experience is probably abnormal, but still...
distrowatch puts debian at number 4 or 5 consistently in its popularity graphs. which is also a rather flimsy number, but it's something.
Better than expected. TouchΓ©
That's just based on how many people open that page on Distro watch, it has pretty much nothing to do with the actual use or popularity of a distro. You didn't really think MX Linux spent a few years as the most popular distro, right?
as i said, flimsy numbers.
run0
I am not one of those weird anti-systemD guys(ok, maybe a little bit) but run0 just feels weird to me. What is the usecase? why would I choose this over doas? what are we doing here?
The selling point is that it is simpler to get pid 0 to start your process as root than for sudo/doas to clean up your environment.
~150 loc in C is enough for the things sudo is used on a single-user machine. doas is for multiuser.
okay, but the version of sudo everyone uses is over 130 000 lines of C.