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Aside from the loudest pro-Palestinian voice in the US, who just two days ago in a debate with a cohort of centrist ghouls blasted the Bill Clinton "Judea and Samaria" racist rant from last year to the thunderous applause of an entire auditorium
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, being on the right side of the Palestinian genocide is literally the lowest ideological/moral bar possible. Literally evil freaks like Marjorie Taylor green have fallen ass backwards into being against the genocide.
Where is Hasan Piker, hero of anti-imperialism, when it comes time to debate whether “The Left(tm)” should uplift a guy who signed up to slaughter his way across the Middle East in the name of American empire not once, not twice, not three times, not four times, but FIVE times? Dutifully performing his role of sheepdogging people into the Democratic Party, and tricking people like yourself into having the shortest possible idea of where the political horizon could be - while helpfully propping up your deep seated sense of American exceptionalism and liberalism.
Trivalizing pro-Palestinian activism and for what, cause of your personnel crusade against the dipshit, cracker, maybe-a-nazi/maybe not idiot marine from Maine? Trashing leftists over sideshow flyover state election bullshit
And all that despite the fact Hasan passed your test when he the spent the whole week of that controversy bashing Platner, calling him a "unacceptable dipshit" and "incredible dumbass" and stating he wouldn't offer a kind word in his direction until Platber clarifies without doubt his position on American imperialism
No that's not good enough, cause we all have to subscribe to your idiosyncratic conspiracy theory about Manchurian candinate neo nazis and if we end up bashing AIPAC's number one media enemy then so be it right? Cause we got our priorities straight
Dude spends most of his streams bashing the dnc and calling the dems controlled opposition, but he's "sheepdogging" right?
You're not looking at any poltical horizons, you're staring off into space screaming at a constellation that resembles Hasan's face
I’m not trashing leftists, I have issues with a liberal political commentator being held up as the beyond reproach saviour and sole hope of socialism in America.
You must be confusing me with someone else, at no point did I say Platner was a neo Nazi or a Manchurian candidate. I (paraphrasing) called him a willing and unrepentant tool of American imperialism.
“Screaming at a constellation that resembles Hasan’s face?” Do you hear yourself lol. You seem confused that I am some sort of Hasan obsessive. I just don’t like opportunism (which is also why you and I keep getting into disagreements). I also think the so-called left (better stated as “the working class movement”) deserves better thought leaders (or god forbid actual organisers) than “radical liberal who reads articles and yells at his computer 12 hours a day”.
Again, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out which side of the genocide question to be on. On most other ideological, theoretical, organisational matters Piker is shown to be not up to the task. The way some of you folks defend him it’s like he was the second coming of Lenin. I really think we could do a lot better, and if we don’t critique what’s in front of us how will that be achieved?
He's not beyond reproach, just don't lie about his takes or downplay his role and reach in radicalizing millions of Americans
He's stupidly too charitable with his reactionary enemies and he relies on liberal sources for his Ukraine takes despite having the correct take about NATO in general, it's contradictory
Wow how easy was that, I didn't need to make shit up or insult other leftists over them stanning his leading role in normalizing pro-Palestinian activism
None of you have ever demonstrated or proved this supposed "opportunism" you all just make shit up, misrepresent his real takes or worst of all promote Destiny smear campaigns (which is the real reason I will always come down on your heads when it comes to Hasan bashing)
Every time I point this shit out you all end up having the wildest crash outs and throwing out bizarre accusations or dumb lines like "Marx is rolling in his grave"
Sorry, but when it comes to Hasan, you guys are simply delusional and negatively primed in weird parasocial ways
Hasan is an effective radicalizer, not toward liberalism, but toward socialism and his next two weeks in China is gonna demonstrate that fact for you doomers
It’s always pro Palestine and never anti Zionist. How curious, I wonder what’s Hasan’s position on West Bank settlers is (he thinks there’s too many to decolonize so a one state is needed to not uproot the colonizers from stolen land). I wonder why people keep calling out me using Marx’s name when all I do is defend liberals and call everyone who critiques them ultra larpers
Dw this poster thinks Hasan is the most important figure ever, if you're actively engaged in making sure trans people arent homeless that is considered less important, by that person's words. Already discussed this with them, just ignore the ramblings, their opinions aren't grounded and are entirely parasocial.
Does Hasan do some useful agitation ?Maybe. Are there better things he could focus on with all of his cash? Absolutely.
You really have to wonder why this radlib clown hasn't been banned yet
debating and getting a thunderous applesauce wow very valuable
So advocacy, normalization and agitation is worthless according to you? Propaganda is just meaningless?
Yeah what a fraud, why isn't this Twitch streamer leading the vanguard workers party into a martial conflict with the state, the fool
At this point Hasan haters on this site are indistinguishable from vaush or destiny stans
You love this particular false dichotomy huh.
It's not a dichotomy, it's the implication and expectation the anti-Hasan battalion keeps alluding to everytime you trash Hasan over bullshit, obviously when someone just says the take out loud it sounds real goofy af doesn't it
Meanwhile I'm back on planet earth happy there's at least one prominent leftist voice normalizing Palestinian liberation, wild how realistic expectations saves you from taking embarrassing ass takes seriously
Marx would roll in his grave to see people like you invoking his name lol
lmao that is like the fifth time people from your clique have spat that line out, did you all workshop that bit in a discord or something?
I read the man, I don't worship him and I definitely don't remember sectarian utopian navel gazing being among his prescriptions
You appear to be taking this website too seriously.
lmao I'm the one taking it too seriously?
I simply noticed a recurring pattern when it comes to certain people in certain threads repeatedly insulting me, end of story
You doofus larpers on the otherhand are the one's trashing real world praxis and pretending you're infinitely more genuine as commies because you post on a niche ML forum, like be for real
You’re accusing others of being in cliques and cabals against you because they disagree with you on the importance of some entertainer. It’s too serious.
Disagreement is fine, but five different people who keep showing up in similar threads insulting me in the same way, because I dared to point out they're making shit up about prominent leftists, is not only the definition of people taking themselves too seriously, but also just trash behavior in general
Grow the fuck up
Yes.
What a weird accusation, lol.
It’s actually pretty amazing how hard you dig your heels in to defend American liberalism. I hope one day you figure out how wrong you have been about these issues, because we could really use some more actual communists over here. Rooting for you dude.
Radicalizing Americans to the idea of Palestinian liberation and the Chinese century is "American liberalism", good take
But yeah your ultra larp will definitely bear fruit any day now
Holy shit the irony
We literally had to create a pinned warning because you dummies kept linking to r/LSF to bash Hasan
lmao like don't even front, you larpers showed your whole ass during the "dog collar" saga
I was literally one of the people who called out the LSF posters, get the fuck over yourself
You were one of the people who created the atmosphere that led people to get comfortable enough to post that shit, how about you get the fuck over your reactionary attitude about Hasan
he was also doing propaganda effort for plantir, the nazi pooper soldier
Don’t even bother with this user. They will throw the entire global south under the bus if it means getting healthcare for Americans