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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I didn't understand it personally, until I played and beat Sekiro. It is honestly a feeling like no other.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I keep on getting told this by people, especially fans of FeomSoft and soulslikes.

I figured I'd take a crack at them this year, and also Bloodborne is my boyfriend's favorite game, so I played it. And that feeling that everyone describes about the satisfaction and accomplishment... Never happened. I beat the bosses and was just like... Okay, on to the next one then I guess. I did have a much better time playing through co-op with him, but I still wouldn't say I felt accomplished by it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah they're not for everyone.

I don't really like tower defense games, but I would never dream about trying to tell devs that they're doing it wrong because I don't like how they do it. I just don't play them.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Well... You totally can. I like towerr defense games too, but I've never played one that I would call perfect. Even my favorite games I could dig deep and give design notes on. Where it's feasible a lot of games have mods or hacks. A lot of people like Pokemon romhacks more than actual games. I put hundreds of hours into Civ 6 starting vanilla, but mods can fix a lot of the little inconveniences and add new content to the game. I think I'm in the minority of Skyrim players who prefers to keep it vanilla- most people mod the hell out of it.

Bloodborne was still fun, especially on subsequent runs and with co-op. I think it would be a way better game overall if they designed any sort of real onboarding experience. A training dummy in the hunter's dream, maybe the ability to try out different weapons there before investing resources into them. Using better language (shooting someone is not a "parry", and why does the axe do blunt damage while the hammer does piercing damage?). An actual goddamn map. A journal system to keep track of what you've done in the game so it's easier to pick up again 3 months later. Clear item descriptions that include numbers. Explanations for what the stats actually do. None of this is what I would call "difficulty", and once you gain the initial knowledge and experience these problems aren't as big of a deal, but it does make the game a lot less accessible for new players.

And I question how much value their absence really adds to the players who do stick around to push through and get that experience. It seems like more of a marketing gimmick to be "different" and foment an elitist, hipster-esque fan base. Or maybe it's a question allocating of the development resources. It's a shame because there's a lot of great design too, it's just hidden behind these frustrating problems that the rest of the industry solved decades ago.

If I wasn't motivated to play it for my boyfriend I would have just dropped it early on. I don't feel like I accomplished anything by suffering through that frustration, I just feel annoyed that I had to deal with these problems I feel like I should not have existed in a 2015 game.