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Mind you, I'm biased since I'm not from the US, I'm Balkan. So a quick heads up there. Plus I'm a hardline commie so yeah. Just did some research on this because It caught my eye.

I haven't really noticed this here or at Lemmygrad. But a lot of online "leftist" spaces, especially on Reddit, are over hyping this shit too much lmao.

Zohran so far:

This circlejerk about a social democrat getting elected is doing my head in, people are acting like the October revolution happened.

Just don't act surprised when magically not much actual change happens in New York. Also don't give me "Oh but the pipeline!!!1!". Yeah If the pipeline actually worked, Bernie and AOC supporters would have been actual marxists by now (Also as a Serb, fuck Bernie, Parenti was right about your dumbass).

I have a pet peeve with American "anti-capitalists" in general. Where they constantly just whine how everything is expensive, no public transport and no free healthcare. Yet they'd probably be fine with the world suffering as long as they got those three things + whatever treats they want.

Don't forget to join a good org nearby you, read and organize folks!

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[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I had flirted with Marx and felt inspired by socialist movements in Latin America prior, but the Bernie and AOC shit sent me off the rails for sure. I think that if Bernie had won, his mask would've slipped eventually and I would have ended up on a similar path, but it would've probably taken another 5-10 years for me to get where I am now, which STILL isn't terribly far.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It would have been interesting to see, at least - Bernie doesn't seem up to the task of using the biuly pulpit let alone using or building an organization behind him, so he would have owned his failures like any typical bourgeois politician.

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh definitely, I guess I just mean that it was better a failure than a success because it accelerated my political development past electoralism into (striving towards) principled marxism

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah that makes sense. It's easier to be disaffected by a party ratfucking than to realize the person your wanted to win actually sucks.

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Definitely. And at the time I didn't really think to dig into Bernie's positions on particular things. I had done it in the past with other politicians but I was limited in my ability to really find out what I wanted to know so it would take me hours and hours of searching to really figure out my position on politicians. My first election was for Obama's first term and even then I was like "man all of these candidates are saying a lot of nothing but I GUESS his platform is the best"... So after that, with Bernie's rhetoric it was easy to ride the wave and not put the effort in since even his milquetoast positions were way more radical