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Disagree on the debatable. I don't think it's debatable at all. All you have to do is look at how short the marketing time is for Halloween VS Christmas. Halloween marketing doesn't really kick up until October and you don't really see many people doing decorations anymore. Meanwhile, stores start marketing for Christmas before Halloween is even over. People turn black Friday into its own little shopping holiday. I know people that spend part of their Thanksgiving day, planning their Black Friday. Halloween has become and afterthought as Christmas consumerism has already devoured Thanksgiving.
How christmasy is black friday really? As you've said it's more of its own little shipping holiday.
Decoration is not inherently consumerism.
Because it exists entirely because of Christmas. Christmas consumerism MADE Black Friday. Without Christmas, there is no Black Friday. It exists solely to feed the consumerism of Christmas... One could say, If Christmas was America, Black Friday is Israel.
i thought black friday was a yankee thanksgiving thing? it's a very recent import to my country and we've had christmas forever
It's supposed to be the day that retailers are pushed over the financial red line back into black ink, but I don't think anyone is ~~believing~~ buying that for a few decades, now.
It was started as just a "BIG CHRISTMAS SALES" day many years ago. It was dubbed "Black Friday" because more and more businesses made a profit on that day this their accounting would all be in "black" ink instead of red which indicated a loss. As things progressed it turned into pretty much all businesses doing some kind of big sales events on that day. It's almost entirely due to Christmas purchases but people now delay buying some stuff during the year to then go buy it on BF thinking they will get a better deal. When in reality the merchants know this and raise the prices beforehand so they can then say everything is on sale when really it might only be slightly cheaper if at, from the normal price.
They would have found another reason.
No they wouldn't lol. Black Friday "deals" and "sales" literally came about as Christmas sales and deals. They just eventually gave it a name because all the stores started doing their Christmas sales on the same day. No other holiday has such rampant consumerism that sales for that holiday creates its own mini holiday. Hell there's even "Cyber Monday" now for online sales after Black Friday in store sales. Both exist specifically for Christmas sales.