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fuck that adhesive bandage just fucking full massive protest already
only 2% turnout last protest and imagine take 75%+ just to get this fixed
Of course we need mass protest, it’s critical for building solidarity and sending messages to those in currently power, but by itself it doesn’t solve the problems. Sites like the one mentioned in the article are kind of a bandaid, sure, but when real peoples’ lives are on the line, and a bandaid donated by the community could save their life, why would you dismiss it out of hand like that? Seems pretty crass to me. Bigger systemic solutions are way better, obviously, but when the current power structure is incapable of providing those solutions, local communities need to come up with their own.
An effective political movement needs protest to expose the problems and bring people on board, and then the movement needs to be get involved in local and national politics by running for office or working to elect people who share the values of those protesting, to convert that solidarity into political power. More than 7 million people turned out to protest last time. What, specifically, would be different about your full massive protest? How would you organize it differently to be more effective than the no kings protests? And would your new mass protest solve the practical problems the orgs in the article are working to solve on the ground right now?
Stopping blood loss saves lives. Bandaids keep cuts from festering into worse issues.
Advocate for more sure, but don't discourage people actually doing something/anything in the real world.
not sure patching this up any longer will work been a patch job for what 249? years
Not dead yet is the same as being alive
Why stop at 75%? Let's just go for 100% since we're not being reasonable.
Not 75%, just 3.5% is needed (probably).
source
"The 3.5% participation metric may be useful as a rule of thumb in most cases; however, other factors—momentum, organization, strategic leadership, and sustainability—are likely as important as large-scale participation in achieving movement success and are often precursors to achieving 3.5% participation."
I feel like this needs to be underlined. Leadership figureheads, especially ones who can delegate or inspire others to act as sub-commanders, would be huge.
Unfortunately, it's hard to communicate and organize hierarchy in the climate we're in now.