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Why are some people so vehemently against genAI? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 months ago by thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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And i don't mean stuff like deepfakes/sora/palantir/anything like that, im talking about why the anti-genai crowd isn't providing an alternative where you can get instant feedback when you're journaling

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[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

These are all historical problems of capitalism; we need to be able to cut through the veil instead of going around it, and attack the root cause, otherwise we are just reacting to new developments.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is the case for some of the critiques but I wouldn't say all.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I didn't want to dump a point-by-point on you unprompted but if you let me know I can write one up happily. A lot of what is said about AI is just capitalism developing as it does, the technology might be novel and unprecedented (it's not entirely, a lot of what AI and AI companies do was already commonplace), but the trend is perfectly in line with historical examples and the theory.

Some less political people might say we just need better laws to steer companies correctly but of course we know where that goes, so the solution is to transform the class character of the state to transform the relations of production, and we recognized this long before AI existed. So my bigger point is that we need to keep sight on what's important, socialism; not simply reacting to new developments any time they happen as this would only keep us running circles within the existing state of things.

A lot of what happens in the western tech sphere is happening in other industries under late-stage capitalism, chasing shorter and shorter term profits and therefore shorter-term commodities as well. But there is also a big ecosystem of open-source AI that exists inside capitalism, though it's again not unique to AI and open-source under capitalism has its own contradictions.

It's like... at this point I think a DotP is more likely than outlawing AI is lol. And I think it's healthy to see it like this.