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there's the people who hate it bc they have petit-bourgueois leanings and think at the stuff as "stealing content" and "copyrighted material" like artist people, "code monkeys" or writers
and there's the people that hate it because it's an obvious grift made to siphon resources and "try" to be a big replacement for proles, and a huge wasteful technology that dries water sources and rises electricity bills with their data centers
yeah, it's kinda useful to make a drawing, fill blank space in a document, or being a dumb assistant who hallucinates anything to pretend that it knows stuff
It's actually not petty bourgeois for proletarians in already precarious positions to object to the blatant theft of their labor product by massive corporations to feed into a computer program intended to replace them (by producing substandard recycled slop). Even in the cases where these people are so-called "self-employed" (usually not actually petty bourgeois, but rather precarious contract labor), they're still correct to complain about this - though the framing of "copyrighted material" is flawed (you can't use the master's tools to dismantle his house). No offense, but dismissing them like this is a bad take. I agree with the rest of your comment.
I agree with you, a friend of mine was illustrator, she lost all her jobs. Now she does scenery.
But they lost their jobs because there's a downward pressure to cost everywhere in society. That money is, once again, stolen.
Also you forgot to mention the 2 dollars-a-day kenyan labourer that trained chatGPT in the first place. Or the awful water consumption.
I dont think the tech itself is evil, or even special, it's just a big array of number at the end. The issues are the techbros and their new hype.
I am/was in visual arts (or rather graphic design) and it's been a long time coming. Spec work was all the rage to rally against back in the day, and despite the protests it hasn't gone anywhere. I'm sure that back in the 90s some old-school designers were against Photoshop too. And of course we are the first person to lose our jobs when a crisis hits, because marketing takes a backseat.
For years Photoshop was the standard in website mockups which is just wild to me as it's not what it's meant for. Today we have tools like Figma, which unfortunately exist as SaaS (Software-as-a-service, with a monthly subscription and on the 'cloud'). The practice still endures despite the fact that you have to code for mobile now and monitors don't come in the standard 4:3 aspect ratio anymore but in many variations.
Oh, I could add SaaS too to the difficulties designers face. For example Wordpress has a lot of prefab themes, so you don't even need to mockup anything in Photoshop or figma anymore. You just pick one and start building your website - it's how I made all my websites, I don't need to duplicate elements in image files and I honestly have no idea how I would even start making a modern website on Photoshop. The footer for example which is the same on all pages is easily editable from Wordpress. I feel like I would be wasting time making a footer on Photoshop when I can just edit it on the website directly in a visual editor and it will update itself on every page.
I don't see that any of the above as a bad thing overall. What we see is that society adapts to changing conditions. The fight is still for socialism.
Yes, CGI in general was demonised and at some point even came close to the current shitstorm, with the same arguments about death of the art and human creativity etc. in reality it just vastly increased the output of the art, especially commercial one.
The commodification of art has been a disaster for the human race
yea coz artists are useless for he machine minded.
Those aren’t petit bourgeois tendencies, those are pre-capitalist artisanal tendencies.
Except for the copyright aspect, but independent artists rarely clamour about their “copyrights”, as their issue is more about how their work, whether copyrighted or not, is getting fed into a capitalist black hole machine designed to replace workers to benefit no one but a few capitalists.
Most within the art world could care less if someone took the time to learn their style one to one by studying their work. That’s the entire point of art to a degree, as the end product is still an expression of labour value. Something that can’t be said about GenAI