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Luckily, it's not the entire Internet, just the unfun part.
Signal is definitely part of the fun internet, they just decided to rely on AWS due to techbro culture I assume?
They rely on AWS due to favourable contract in hosting it, and also proving the proof of concept that they can be hosted securely on a hostile provider, without the provider having any clues at all in what data is being sent between the parties.
sure, proving to the audience that you can kick yourself in the nuts over and over while maintaining the privacy of your testicle's innards is impressive from a biological standpoint but it still looks stupid to a normal person. I don't hate signal, I will continue using it but this and their crypto scam makes me doubt some of their choices and how they'll operate in the future
Huh? What crypto scam?
Moxie works for MobileCoin and implemented a crypto wallet for it inside of Signal which could be an attempt to sneakily monetize the Signal userbase
after looking further into it, he might've also been involved in the MobileCoin pump and dump
I finished reading both articles and they are very heavy on conjecture. It does raise an eyebrow though, but still.
Yes, in an ideal world we would be using SimpleX, XMPP, or similar. However it was already hard enough getting ten non-tech contacts to switch to Signal. The barrier to entry is higher on other platforms or protocols.
you just described the same exact reason why I'm on signal. it's friendly to normies and most other options aren't even though they should be
This thread has set me on the path of getting two of my nerds over onto simplex or XMPP. Maybe matrix.