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[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 23 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

The thing is, you never paid for a "game" in the first place. You paid for a license with a whole boatload of conditions.

The thing that needs to be fixed is not refunds, but what "buying" something digital means in the first place.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 27 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

I didn't say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game. Whether that's a "purchase" or a "license" is irrelevant to the fact that I can't even play the game I "licensed" either.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

They have altered the license. Pray they do not alter it further.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmm, your original response pre-edit was a lot nicer.

I didn’t say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game.

I also didn't use the word purchase. You said "paid for a game", I quoted you as saying you "paid for a game".

Why are you pretending I misquoted you?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because the difference seemed to be what your point was. If it wasn't, I have no idea what it was. I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That was my point -- I was building off of what you said...

I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.

This is exactly the problem. This should be true, but it isn't in most cases.

Store's like GOG get much closer by giving you a DRM free copy. But some would say that even then, if you aren't allowed to modify and distribute that, you don't really own the game either.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay so if I didn't pay for a license for a game, what did I pay for?

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You did, and that licence comes with plenty of terms that can restrict or revoke your access to that game.

Which shouldn't be allowed, but it is.

In an ideal world, you wouldn't have to purchase a license to the game at all. You could purchase the game itself by receiving a packaged copy of it along with a copy of the source code.

But something inbetween would be a nice start.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Great, I'm glad we sorted that out. Thanks for the unnecessary clarification.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol you say you want a discussion and then act like a dickhead when someone engages in that discussion.

Nice work.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't say I wanted a discussion? Why are you misquoting me? I just honestly have no fucking idea what your point is and it's tiresome. Goodbye now.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We seriously need to have a long conversation

This you?

I just honestly have no fucking idea what your point is and it’s tiresome.

Skill issue.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

How convenient that you omitted the part of the sentence that describes what the conversation is about. It wasn't this.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was about what constitutes a refund, which I built upon...

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You didn't build upon anything, you exclusively attempted to derail the conversation into some sort of ridiculous semantics argument that I still don't understand.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I didn't attempt to derail anything, nor did I make any kind of "ridiculous semantics argument".

That you don't understand it continues not to surprise me.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

It's a wish list of what companies hope they can enforce. In the EU Windows licenses are transferable, for example.

One day a judge can say you actually paid for a Game.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world -5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Shut the fuck up with your pedantic points. We are broadly talking about having fun with a game. Who the fuck cares if I don't own it after 10 years? People mature, fads fade, and games get stale. Do I like it? No. But I am not going to derail all other conversations to make it about the point I am determined to shove into every around me. Fuck off.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 4 points 4 weeks ago

Somebody needs a hug.