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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It might be the same situation of me. I'm not a fascist and I use hyprland, I just was unaware until now.

[–] banause@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

tbh, the hyperland thing is, for me personally, not too dramatic. Like there was a failure in moderation and response, but "a manufacturer that supports an floss project that has a discord channel where a mod changed the pronouns of a user and the admin of said channel didn't respond harshly enough" sounds "forgiveable". Not ideal, but also not super dramatic.

DHH on the other hand 😅😂...

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The hyprland situation is waaaay more than just that. And it's not hard to find with a search.

[–] banause@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Huh? I can't find anything? Can you help me out?

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html

P.S. you are right. Google has gotten so much worse compared just a year ago. I had no trouble finding this back then, now I have to dig.

[–] banause@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

Thanks 😁 Okay, first of all, I agree with the general sentiment. You should not donate money to facists. Which DHH clearly is. (I mean, it's absurd that we even have to talk about this in 2025, right? 😅) Just to be completely clear here.

I also agree that the hyperland community is full of assholes. However, being an ignorant asshole is different from being a fascist. If you read the blog of that hyperland guy, I get clearly the picture of an arrogant priviledged dude. However, he does not appear to be a nazi. (I wouldn't hang around with him, but he is not a fascist.)

And for me personally, that doesn't qualify for a boycott. If we draw the line there, boy would we end up with a lot of services to boycott. Even Linus Torvalds himself is kinda a dick at times (a differen kind yes, but still). Richard Stallman is bonkers. Don't get me started on Mark Shuttleworth. However, that doesn't mean that they are fascists and we need to exclude them from our communities. It doesn't mean that any corp donating to the Linux Foundation is evil and need to be boycotted.

Again, the argument against FW still stands because of DHH and their poor handling of the situation. But honestly, continuing to use hyprland in general is okay in my eyes. Supporting them with money is a bit more nuanced of course, but doesn't qualify to get cancelled.