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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Before they invest money? Yes

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world -5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Lesson learned: don't support open source projects. One apparently has to get legal, pr, and a whole investigation (on an ongoing basis!) for every project. Better and cheaper to just not.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Have you...never had a job? I'm really really confused by your aggro response. This is standard operating procedure for any company with more than like 15 people (or with any large assets they can be sued over). I regularly get quotes delayed due to companies having to get their own quotes for their own off the shelf hardware through legal approval.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Have you…never had a job?

Yep. And if customers are getting pissed due to charitable donations we are doing....that incurs a significant cost and becomes a massive hurdle for any future charitable donations.

So, as I said, lesson learned: don't support open source projects.


Edit: Next meeting about supporting open source project: "Hey this author has opinion x, anti-x is going to hate that. Let's just spend the money elsewhere."

Following meeting about supporting a different open source project: "Hey, this author has opinion anti-x, x is going to hate that. Let's just spend the money elsewhere."

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 3 hours ago

If that's the takeaway you want rather than "standard business practice is to vet organizations you support to make sure your goals are aligned"...uh...good for you?