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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why do the people who did the right thing by paying back the loans get shafted?

This is literally the guy in the OP. For a closer comparison, this is like saying "you're freeing all slaves? What about people like me who bought their own freedom? We made so many sacrifices to do it and now we're just being shafted?!"

A good thing happening to me is not a bad thing happening to you and vice versa.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's such a cheap shot at my point.

  1. People chose to take out these loans, this isn't like cancer or slavery.
  2. Someone has to pay for the loans. When forgiven that means every tax payer is taking on that burden. So yes a good thing happening to you can be a bad thing for other people.
  3. Most importantly, forgiving current loans doesn't prevent more people from falling into the same pitfalls. Meaning you're just perpetuating the problem

My point is don't forgive loans if you haven't fixed the problem because all your doing then is perpetuating the broken system and burdening everyone with student debt.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 6 months ago

People chose to take out these loans, this isn't like cancer or slavery.

So what? Would someone who chose to have unprotected sex not deserve to have their AIDS cured? It's completely messed up that it's even necessary to take on backbreaking debt to get higher education—to many people their only shot at social mobility. It's technically a choice, yes, but the fact that anyone even needs to make that choice is a travesty. Telling someone "take on tens of thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands after interests) of dollars or lock yourself out of most social mobility" is messed up no matter what they choose, but partial justice is better than total injustice.

Someone has to pay for the loans. When forgiven that means every tax payer is taking on that burden. So yes a good thing happening to you can be a bad thing for other people.

That's how society works. You want others to help you you have to help them. This is no difference than child tax credits, food stamps or the myriad of other programs the government runs with the taxes of people who won't necessarily benefit from them.

Most importantly, forgiving current loans doesn't prevent more people from falling into the same pitfalls. Meaning you're just perpetuating the problem

Forgiving current debt and preventing future debt are completely unrelated positions. Current debt needs to be forgiven and future debt needs to be prevented, but there's no reason to lock one of these behind the other. The problem is being perpetuated either way, just with more human suffering on one side.