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The Gaza Strip-based Palestinian resistance movement Hamas has responded to a 20-point proposal forwarded by Donald Trump, which the US president says is aimed at ending the Israeli regime’s ongoing war of genocide on the coastal sliver.

The movement provided its response through a statement on Friday after “extensively studying” the plan and conducting “in-depth consolations” with various Palestinian factions as well as “out of keenness to stop the aggression and the war of extermination.”

The group also said it had come up with the response “based on national responsibility and out of concern for the constants, rights, and supreme interests of our people.”

As part of the response and for the sake of enabling cessation of the warfare and realization of withdrawal of the invading Israeli forces, Hamas said it agrees to “release all Israeli captives, living and deceased.”

The group, however, asserted that the release would take place “provided that the field conditions for the exchange process are secured.”

Accordingly, the group said, it is ready to enter negotiation with mediators towards realizing the purpose.

Elsewhere in the statement, Hamas said it approves of “handing over the administration of the Gaza Strip to a Palestinian body of independents (technocrats) based on Palestinian national consensus and based on Arab and Islamic support.”

Nevertheless, the group stated that the rest of the provisions mentioned in Trump’s proposal had to be agreed upon “through a comprehensive Palestinian national framework of which Hamas will be a part and to which it will contribute with full responsibility.”

It attributed the latter part of its decision to those provisions being linked to a comprehensive national position and based on relevant international laws and resolutions.

Earlier, the movement had expressed skepticism concerning the proposal, asserting that due to the sensitive nature of the elements involved, its response would be a distinctively collective one integrating the opinions of various Palestinian factions.

It had identified the matters at stake as the future of the Palestinian issue, Palestinians’ rights, core principles, and political identity, saying it would provide a conclusive answer following additional consultations with Palestinian groups.

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[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's somewhat unfair to Satan...

[–] Malkhodr@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean to the best of my understanding, Satan is a merciless, but considerably honest prosecutor in Judaism, but I could be wrong/incomplete in my understanding. 🤷‍♀️

[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Satan" is a complex figure who takes on a variety of personas depending on the specific faith.

In Judaism he is 'The Accuser'; the one who accuses the dead of sins when they go before God. He isn't malevolent in this role so much as he is - as you said - a prosecutor in God's Court. This isn't the only interpretation of Satan but it's the most common one and the origin for the versions in other religions. The figure plays a much smaller role in Judaism than in Christianity, Islam, or the Baháʼí Faith however his role as a source of temptation toward sin is consistent with the first two.

In Christianity he instead assumes the role of the rebellious son, sent to Hell as punishment for betraying God. Although popular culture likes to depict him as the ruler of Hell this is more conflation of him with Hades from Greek Mythology and isn't strictly accurate to the theology of Christianity in most sects. This also assumes that Hell is a literal place and not a state of being, which are the two most common interpretations of Hell and the latter being more common while the former is largely a pop culture invention tracing back to Dante's Inferno. The ultimate fate of Satan varies from sect to sect as well; some claim he is beyond redemption while others claim he will return to God in the end.

The Islamic Iblis (Shaitan) closer to the Christian Satan than the Jewish Accuser in that he was thrown out of Heaven, but instead of his crime being a failed coup it was his refusal to recognize Adam as his superior. Unlike the Christian Satan though he isn't a strictly malevolent figure depending on the sect to the point that 'Shaitan' and 'Iblis' are sometimes distinct concepts, with the latter being the figure's proper name and the former being a title for evil-doers. Iblis is either an angel or the father of jinn (genies) depending on the sect.

In the Baháʼí Faith there exists the concept of 'Satan' but this isn't a literal figure and instead represents the capability for evil that humans possess; thus the struggle against sin is the struggle against 'satanic urges' or 'Satan'. In other words because humans are capable of evil we're all capable of becoming Satan according to Baháʼí scripture, but otherwise Satan isn't a person so much as it is a moral state.

[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 days ago

Nice about Baha'i, I didn't know that. I have some (very loosely) NOI acquaintances (read, when it suits their ends) who won't even utter the word. Jesus himself said "The Kingdom of heaven is within you." That means the Kingdom of hell too, from my perspective.

There are certain Judeochristian adherents who, similarly to the Baha'i, hold that by confronting one's "demons" and properly having them subjugated and in your service, they then become your holy guardian angels. Interestingly enough, throughout history, several of these who ever held any seats of power ended up being fascists, although not as frothing as Nazi Germany or the United States, or at least hadn't the means, will, and mechanism at once to achieve their fascist tendencies on those levels. Others either ended up becoming barking mad, addicts, indigents, or involved themselves in the arts. A few carried on the tradition and brought the message to the masses, although largely were rejected by the masses.

I didn't mean to be dismissive of the image. I appreciate it and laugh whenever I see it posted anywhere. Of the three largest Abramic traditions, I went to the eldest, to the best of my knowledge.