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I hate when bombing civilians and stripping rights distracts from the only issue that matters smh π
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this post was submitted on 22 Sep 2025
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At the heart of the "we mustn't be distracted away from the Epstein scandal" crowd is the naive belief that we have simply yet to find the perfect argument that, when shown to the frothing genocidal fascists, will somehow magically turn them 180 degrees and renounce american fascism.
It is this supremely liberal idea that you can wriggle yourself out of fascism if you find the right facts and logic, the most epic slam, the most cutting late night TV monologue, to show a right winger and have them renounce fascism. It's based in the incorrect idea that the wheel of history turns via ideas. The idea that the marketplace of ideas, in combination with certain "Great Men", are the ultimate arbiters of history.
Fascism doesn't work like that. You could drop 4k footage of Trump committing the acts, and nothing would change. If you want to halt fascism, you've either got to squash it with guns and tanks, or you give people healthcare, education, retirement, and socialization.
I see it exactly the opposite. The focus on the Epstein files feels much more like an admission that they won't listen to rational, logical arguments, and replacing those efforts with rhetorical tactics that do seem to be effective; namely, moralistic outrage.
We've seen that some of his base does respond to the Epstein fishiness. It's driving a wedge between subsets of his base, and I personally know several former MAGAs that have really soured on Trump over it.
This cuts at the heart of being a Leftist. Deep inside, we're all secretly convinced that if we can just craft the perfect factually correct well researched well spoken argument, that people will flock to our cause. It just aint true. We can convince some people in that manor but not the majority.