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I feel like former socialists never believed in socialism that much (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 days ago by KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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For former socialists, there's one argument I see them use for why they are not socialist anymore.

That argument is that they felt guilty about wanting to push their ideology onto others and so they started believing in parliamentary politics again where every opinion is valuable. My dad who used to be an anarchist as a teenager used this reasoning, as well as one of my teachers.

But this argument doesn't make sense to me, because it makes politics into something which only revolves around opinions, while we communists and the capitalist class know it's about power.

I feel like these people never learned much about their ideology when they were socialists. I think I will never stop being a communist, I know too much.

Have you seen this reasoning yourself?

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[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

personally the reasons i've seen far more often for people shifting away from communism/socialism etc. are:

their material conditions improved, de-radicalizing them
they became disillusioned with the failures of local orgs/parties

[–] Relax@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Very true, I've seen both these happen in person.

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Organizing is hard. I can understand how people get disillusioned with it and feel like their efforts are for nothing.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 days ago

If I had to be honest: organizing sucks lol. And of course it does. Who wouldn't rather do something more fun with their lives? But it's necessary.