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Do some people just regurgitate arguments blindly? (lemmygrad.ml)
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I notice this with people talking about capitalism, obviously, but honestly what drove me to make this post is the attempted arguments against veganism. They're basically 95% unoriginal and fail under the most basic of scrutiny.

Take, for example, "not eating the meat won't bring the cow back." Under basically any logical scrutiny, this is a clear double standard to any other purchasing decision in capitalist society, and doesn't really make any sense. But I've seen in so many times over the years, so much so that im planning on becoming a vegan over a period of time. Not because of any arguments vegans make, but because somehow pro-meat eaters are losing a debate to a brick wall, and the conclusions I've made myself have convinced myself that I should be vegan. And I'm really starting to ask, do people just...like...ctrl+c ctrl+v arguments in their head?

I...try to be nice. But...how little respect to your own ability do you have if you do that? Not only to justify something you really don't have to, but something you obviously dont care about. I mean...sorry, it's just baffling to me.

In the words of Kim Kitsuragi from disco elysium, "I dont understand officer...please, help me understand"

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[–] Poof@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Reason usually flows from emotion and not the other way around. By this I mean people without noticing themselves construct reasons for whatever they feel is true. It is why changing minds is so hard as you need to avoid invocking an emotional response. You'll notice often when people do change on a subject it is due to some personal experience and not research. Veganism can be construede as a moral failure of the person who is not if it comes from a point of animal liberation or welfare.