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Do some people just regurgitate arguments blindly? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 weeks ago by King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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I notice this with people talking about capitalism, obviously, but honestly what drove me to make this post is the attempted arguments against veganism. They're basically 95% unoriginal and fail under the most basic of scrutiny.

Take, for example, "not eating the meat won't bring the cow back." Under basically any logical scrutiny, this is a clear double standard to any other purchasing decision in capitalist society, and doesn't really make any sense. But I've seen in so many times over the years, so much so that im planning on becoming a vegan over a period of time. Not because of any arguments vegans make, but because somehow pro-meat eaters are losing a debate to a brick wall, and the conclusions I've made myself have convinced myself that I should be vegan. And I'm really starting to ask, do people just...like...ctrl+c ctrl+v arguments in their head?

I...try to be nice. But...how little respect to your own ability do you have if you do that? Not only to justify something you really don't have to, but something you obviously dont care about. I mean...sorry, it's just baffling to me.

In the words of Kim Kitsuragi from disco elysium, "I dont understand officer...please, help me understand"

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[–] NikkiB@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

Most arguments are only designed to persuade oneself. And who wants to grapple with the cruelty of meat?

I used to be a vegetarian. I went years without eating any meat whatsoever, and did so on moral grounds. I caved, and the reasons were not any of the typical excuses offered by carnists. Simply put, not eating meat alienated me from others. I was made to conceive of them as villainous by my abstention from that same evil. I still don’t think it’s right to kill animals for meat, but I eat chicken just so I don’t have to deal with thinking of my coworkers and friends as bad people for also doing so.

Not sure if that gives any insight, but maybe it will.