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Do some people just regurgitate arguments blindly? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 5 days ago by King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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I notice this with people talking about capitalism, obviously, but honestly what drove me to make this post is the attempted arguments against veganism. They're basically 95% unoriginal and fail under the most basic of scrutiny.

Take, for example, "not eating the meat won't bring the cow back." Under basically any logical scrutiny, this is a clear double standard to any other purchasing decision in capitalist society, and doesn't really make any sense. But I've seen in so many times over the years, so much so that im planning on becoming a vegan over a period of time. Not because of any arguments vegans make, but because somehow pro-meat eaters are losing a debate to a brick wall, and the conclusions I've made myself have convinced myself that I should be vegan. And I'm really starting to ask, do people just...like...ctrl+c ctrl+v arguments in their head?

I...try to be nice. But...how little respect to your own ability do you have if you do that? Not only to justify something you really don't have to, but something you obviously dont care about. I mean...sorry, it's just baffling to me.

In the words of Kim Kitsuragi from disco elysium, "I dont understand officer...please, help me understand"

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[–] NotMushroomForDebate@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I wish more comrades were consistent and applied "No investigation, no right to speak" when it comes to veganism.

Too many people feel comfortable commenting on and criticising veganism and vegan movements when they don't know what veganism even is (one tell-tale sign is if they compare veganism and vegetarianism, even though they're not related concepts in the slightest).

For people reading this who have not experienced being on the receiving side of this, just imagine an endless barrage of "gommunism 100 trillion killed, no iphone, vuvuzela" and having to explain for the 1200th time that no, personal property and private property are not the same thing, no one is coming for your toothbrush.

I avoid the topic as much as I can online because, in my experience at least with this topic, conversations over text are rarely productive.