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I understand that the market reforms where great for the people of China and helped it develop into a global superpower competing with the USA. However, now that there is such growth, shouldn't they start tuning down the private sector until it's fully replaced? Similar market reforms happened in the USSR, but that was replaced when the USSR economy grew. I tried to research it, but all I got was capitalist bs from the west. Also, even with the private sector, shouldn't higher education be paid for? I understand that there is nuance and it is not that simple, that is why I'm posting this: I want to understand the nuance, not to spread ultra bs.

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[–] Soot@hexbear.net 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Those graphs are interesting. How does state ownership grow that quickly over that short a time? Are they just pouring money into nationalising industries? Massively growing state ones? Seizing bad 'uns? All of the above?

Given the government has been pretty stable under Xi's premiership for that whole period, it must be something circumstantial leading to that heel turn. My best guess is just the realisation that state companies are outcompeting global private ones at every turn now. Very welcome whatever the actual cause.

Also, funny article.

The authorities' stance since 2020, including regulatory tightening and zero-COVID lockdowns, appear to have inflicted long-lasting damage to China's private economy, the dynamism of which was a defining feature of its economic miracle in the past four decades. Nearly 20 months into China's COVID reopening, the private sector has yet to bounce back, despite many pro-private business utterances and gestures from China's leadership. In sum, the findings here corroborate the view that China continues to suffer from "economic long COVID."

"The fact that China's economy is significantly growing with unparalleled state ownership despite COVID, while the private sector withers, just shows how the private sector is the cause of China's 'economic miracle' and that continued, consistent massive state-led economic success just shows how bad the economy now is!!"

[–] randomquery@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Those graphs are interesting. How does state ownership grow that quickly over that short a time? Are they just pouring money into nationalising industries? Massively growing state ones? Seizing bad 'uns? All of the above?

To be honest I am not sure. Wish they would have some explanation in this report but I couldn't find anything.

[–] Eiren@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 4 days ago

Capitalists will never admit the public sector is more efficient, and individualists will never admit collectivism is a superior survival strategy. It would destroy their ego if they even acknowledged it.