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At 18 seconds into this speech Trumps Pinky disappears under his hand and his ring finger 'becomes' his pinky. This is clearly AI.

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Your post title is making a claim with absolute certainty. If you can’t see that, I can’t continue this conversation.

My post title is stating what I (still) believe to be true. I'm not going to qualify every statement I believe to be true with weasel words in the off chance I am wrong, just to please pedants who like to make a big deal over every word uttered online. I am a human being and capable of making mistakes- and If I see proof that I have made a mistake then I will admit it. If that's not good enough for you then please don't continue this conversation.

Your stills of the hand clearly show a cross dissolve.

The stills of the hand clearly show that the jacket and shirt are in the EXACT same position in the two frames and the only things that look fucky are his hand and fingers. What are the odds that Trump was able to position himself so precisely? I don't buy it.

That explains why you think the length of the finger is incorrect too.

No, it doesn't- at all. I am saying in the FIRST picture BEFORE the cut his 'ring' finger is clearly longer than his 'middle' finger. I even made sure to check and see if he wasn't some sort of a freak that just happened to have a longer ring finger than normal- did you even look at that pic?

The absolute zero benefit at all to Trump to “deepfake” his finger

And what was the benefit of trying to hide the cut in either scenario? They clearly did that- whether through 'traditional' editing or AI- so that point doesn't mean anything.

But seeing how you struggle with concepts of what constitutes an expert

I don't 'struggle' with who or what is an expert- I've just been around long enough to know not to immediately trust every Tom, Dick, or Harry who claims to be one. Judging by your defensiveness and your inability to provide ANY sources to back up your claims- I don't think it's unreasonable to continue to doubt- unless there is some other way you could prove your credentials.

If you had simply got on and said "Hey, I happen to work in video forensics and I think this is just simply a clever editing trick that doesn't use AI", I might have been more inclined to think you might know what you are talking about, but it seems like you have issues that go far beyond simply disagreeing with my conclusion, so forgive me for being skeptical- or don't. I don't really care one way or the other.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

As I said. Flat Earth is another avenue for you to venture into. Sorry I offended your ego, but you cant take any more arguments from me, so hopefully someone with less of a hard angle on your personality can show you the way, though I have to say most people would not see this echo chamber as inviting for an open discussion. You did not open yourself up for discussion, hence you making the black and white statement as your post title.

All the best buddy, I'm not an expert, and you uncovered a real internet deepfake of a president making a regular address after he was seen in public before and after the taping of this.