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Yeah tbh I'm not sure what the reason for using a systems programming language other than either Rust or C would be. Rust by default for safety (and it's as performant as any other systems language), C if you either need to work with an existing C codebase or want to be able to more easily do unsafe stuff. Or if you need to compile quickly. I'm sure the other languages have their benefits but not to the extent where I would both want to learn it and have use cases for it where I would choose that language over Rust or C for a project.
@communism @FizzyOrange Sometimes you want modern features and safety without the headache that is writing Rust. Rust is a complicated language. I just want something simple without a million footguns.
Rust is fairly well known for not having footguns (except async Rust at least) and for not being a headache.
I guess it can be more complex than something like Python or Typescript though. I would say that extra complexity is not a big deal compared to the pain you'll have to deal with working with a language as niche as Nim though.
@FizzyOrange Footguns as in C. Headache as in rust.
Headache isn't a word I'd associate with Rust. More with Ruby or Python (at least until
uv
mostly saved us).uv
is love.uv
is life.I'm still trying to get people at work to use it. It's one of the few tools out there that takes Python from intolerable spaghetti to readable and maintainable.
I have found that
conda
proves to be. . .
a fairly good
. . .
alternative to
pip
as well.conda
isn't much of an alternative topip
. It's more of an alternative tovenv
. Unless you're referring to conda's dependency management, which I've admittedly never used.And until
pip uninstall foo
uninstalls unused transitive dependencies too, you'll have to drag me back.