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Question about the AB petition to stay in Canada (lemmy.ca)

submitted 3 weeks ago by Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca to c/alberta@lemmy.ca

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It's my understanding that a referendum petition is about the phrasing of the question that's presented to go on the referendum ballot.

The pro-Canada group "won" the right to petition for their question to go on the ballot as they submitted before the anti-Canada traitors could. Basically, stay in Canada vs leave Canada.

Am I just an idiot, or is the safest thing for AB to do is not sign regardless of who is asking? If this petition gets enough sigs all it means is that this will be the question asked on the ballot for referendum instead of the leave question right? But if it fails, there won't be a referendum at all.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me this is being proposed as a petition to stay in Canada, but it's really a petition to trigger a referendum with "stay in Canada" as the question instead of "leave Canada".

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[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

But the question isn't "do you agree AB should stay in Canada". The question is " by signing this you agree the question of separation on the ballot for the referendum that would then get called is 'do you agree AB should stay in Canada'".

If you don't sign, there is no referendum at all. I feel like labeling the same question as a positive instead of a negative is an effort to dupe people into signing it out of patriotism, thus putting it on the ballot for referendum.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Thomas Lukaszuk certainly could be lying about the reasons why he submitted the petition. He was the Deputy Premier of the PCs after all, so, there's that.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate to be so pessimistic, but seeing fascism come back down south means being defensive. I'm questioning if this is happening:

There are 10 Albertans. 2 want to separate. They need signatures from 4 to add it to the ballot for referendum. Rather than try and fail, spin the question and go after the 8 that don't want to separate. All they need is to convince half to sign as "patriotic" and it goes to referendum.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's more so that there are 10 Albertans, 3 want to leave, and they need signatures from 2 to add it to the ballot for a referendum.

https://angusreid.org/smith-shapiro-sovereignty/

There would certainly be enough people to get 177 thousand signatures within 4 months.

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