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[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So for example the “lived experience” of black folks in the southern US in the 60s isn’t valuable I’m the discussion of racism in America?

When their "lived experience" is "no, I've never seen any racism!" then no, it's not really valuable, and it's incredibly suspect to boot.

It’s fine to want to move from anecdote to data

Let's just start with data. Anecdotes are supplementary. The way "lived experience" is usually used (and is used here) is to provide the primary support to an argument.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Again you're expecting a rigor beyond the venue of discussion, especially given that the person I replied to started with an anecdote as well.

If you have data on the soundproofedness of apartments across the US to contextualize the common consensus to the level you expect I would be happy to browse it.

Until then I'm comfortable believing anyone (as in the many commenters here) who say their apartment was loud. The several I lived in were as well so I have no reason to question it

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

you’re expecting a rigor beyond the venue of discussion

Maybe, but I'm trying to change that. I think we can all be smarter than just trading anecdotes.

And your post emphasizes my point. We're talking about a preferred hypothetical society, while the point he was trying to make with his anecdote is that apartments are and always will be poorly soundproofed, world without end. Obviously it sounds absurd when you extrapolate it out to the societal level, but when you couch it in anecdotal terms it makes the argument seem worth discussing on the face of it. It's not.

We can talk about how currently apartments are shoddy in the US, that's a worthwhile discussion. But to be against the idea of apartments in general because apartments right now are poorly regulated is silly.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's fine, go tell it to OP, he's making top level anecdotal comments.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just see a lot of data in his posts actually

https://lemmy.world/u/Fried_out_Kombi

With sources too.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Indeed but I'm not replying to that here

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Indeed but I'm not replying to that here

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