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https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/07/20/opinion-broadway-upzoning-parking-chicago/

"If the city becomes more dense, where will people put their car?!!" he asks.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Pretty much what the removed comment said (really just don't build if its going to exacerbate problems). Do you love to talk past people that are agreeing with the premise and making the movement look bad or what are you on about?

Again, I am disputing that premise of "just don't build if its going to exacerbate problems" and saying that everyone repeating it is wrong. The problems of car-dependency need to be exacerbated in order to force a break from the car-dependent status quo.

It's not a great analogy, but creating good urbanism is kinda like exercise: similarly to how you have to work the muscle hard enough to break it down in order for it to build back stronger, you have to deliberately build things anticipating walkability etc., even knowing that it will make traffic worse, in order to get the infrastructure supporting other modes of transportation to actually happen. No pain, no gain.

Edit: it suddenly occurs to me that when I wrote "only one of those options is good," you might have misread it as "only option #1 is good." That is not what I meant; option #3 is the only good one.