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All these religious idiots campaign so hard to prevent assisted suicide, but none of them are out there campaigning to stop the government starving us to death by stopping our benefits. Apparently a quick, painless death is against the will of the flying spaghetti monster, but a slow painful death is just fine,

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Authority over death belongs to God alone

Saint Augustine said that you're not allowed to kill yourself because "thou shall not kill" doesn't specify "thy neighbor" like other commandments, yet there are clear exemptions in the bible to shall not kill: Laws of one's state and Divine intervention (like God telling Abraham to kill his son).

What I'm saying is Fundies are more regressive than 4th Century christians.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think Augustine would not assign carte blanche to any law a state may hold regarding killing, or else the Commandment is meaningless and Christians may support their own persecution (though I guess they kind of did in pre-Christian Rome).

But also this is unimportant because we, as a secular society, should not be binding others by the laws of a religion they do not believe in, and that's the main point.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

He does specifically say "just" laws, which definitely means "ones that agree with Christianism"