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[–] anzo@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I had the same question. The best would be to consult a lawyer and see if there's any precedent already set.

I could imagine police could easily film the process and a video would be enough proof for any judge. The phone shows a pin entry, a reboot, and then a welcome screen just like a factory reset has been done. Right?

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I thought of it as two seperate problems:

The first one is legal - if the person asked to surrender credentials surrenders them, and the device turns out to be reset (assuming no foul play), does this constitute the crime of not surrendering the credentials?

If the answer to one is "yes", the technological question begs itself: How to make a duress pin indistinguishable from the real one?

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The phone shows a pin entry, a reboot, and then a welcome screen just like a factory reset has been done. Right?

It does, but it's pretty obvious that something unusual has happened.

The phone boots into Google's "Someone is fucking around" boot screen and waits there for a response.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Precisely my point. It's self evident without need for further digital proof. Just a video of the screen.