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[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (33 children)

I was ready to demand my Lefty comrades go vote for Kamala: after all, one Genocide is better than two genocides.

But then she came out "tough on the border" and took that from me. She promised to be every bit as hard as Trump.

https://theweek.com/politics/kamala-harris-immigration-policy-mexico-border

But she worked HARD to alienate the Left. She took every piece of rhetoric I had and shat on it.

So we have Kamala caving on Gaza with rhetoric (and walking it back)

https://forward.com/fast-forward/666427/kamala-harris-does-not-agree-with-protester-who-shouted-genocide-her-campaign-says/

But flatly refusing to do anything:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/crocodile-tears-and-genocide-how-the-gaza-war-is-threatening-kamala-harris-s-white-house-chances/ar-AA1tnGVg

Just like the Liberal Party. Promise almost nothing, make a symbolic gesture, do actually nothing.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/harris-gaza

So when she gets no support, why are Clinton Neoliberal, Reaganomics-poisoned-but-polite Liberals surprised? This is the Country they designed, on purpose.

She wasn't a zionist and wanted to end the war

Citation? Because any time I saw anything indicating that, she IMMEDIATELY walked it back. And I've cited (shitty) sources.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (16 children)

I dug through my comment history to find this. It has plenty of links.

I read it. Democrats will keep playing the left for fools and moving to the right, no matter what happens.

No Bernie's campaign and Warren's campaign drove Biden to the left on a whole host of issues, including labor unions.

There was no daylight between her and Biden on Netanyahu’s genocide.

Don't lie.

This comment said it best and lists calls for a ceasefire from Harris.

https://lemmy.world/comment/13069715

She’s taken a stance, multiple times. The left doesn’t want to hear it.

March - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1234822836/kamala-harris-benny-gantz-gaza-cease-fire-israel-hamas

July - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315

September - https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024/card/harris-calls-for-ceasefire-in-gaza-while-trump-claims-she-hates-israel--isokhfqmy6EgRGrUOSuK

Harris promised to do everything in her power to end the war in Gaza.

“This year has been difficult, given the scale of death and destruction in Gaza and given the civilian casualties and displacement in Lebanon, it is devastating. And as president, I will do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza, to bring home the hostages, end the suffering in Gaza, ensure Israel is secure, and ensure the Palestinian people can realise their right to dignity, freedom, security and self-determination,” Harris said to applause during a rally in East Lansing city of Michigan, home to 200,000 Arab Americans.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/4/harris-says-will-end-gaza-war-in-final-election-appeal-to-arab-americans

Unlike Biden, Harris was not a life long Zionist.

When Joe Biden met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet during his visit to Israel, the U.S. president assured them: “I don’t believe you have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, and I am a Zionist.”

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/i-am-zionist-how-joe-bidens-lifelong-bond-with-israel-shapes-war-policy-2023-10-21/

Harris wasn't perfect. And that was simply not good enough for some people who didn't want to risk their hands getting dirty. Even if it meant the Palestinians becoming the cost of doing business.

I voted for Harris and the election is over. That doesn’t mean I’m going to pretend that she wasn’t as committed to Netanyahu’s genocide as Biden was.

Good for you. I appreciate it. No need to spread propaganda though.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Saying that Israel has a right to exist is Zionist.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The context matters. That doesn't mean it has the right to exist as an apartheid state. She wants a two state solution. Which should be the goal.

No amount of misquoting is getting anyone out of the fact she was the correct choice in 2024.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why should that be the goal? Why does stolen land get to remain stolen just because a couple of generations have passed?

Because a couple of generations have passed. It's wrong to displace the Palestinians. It's wrong to displace the Israelis. It's wrong to displace people. There is no more correct place for people to be living then where they are right now.

Israel must return to the 1967 borders.

https://www.nad.ps/en/our-position/borders

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