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Other sports like soccer, football even basketball has advanced with sports science and nutrition. You see track and field records get broken. Swimming as well. NFL combine you see more 300 lbs athletes run ridiculous 40s and you see more and more db, wr, rb etc run sub 4.3 40s. Strength sports you see a record broken every other week.

I don't feel that with boxing. Too much cherry picking and underhanded tactics around. Even Canelo who I rate highly has pulled off shady shit like doping in the GGG rematch. Fucking tyson fury heavyweight champ at the time getting embarrassed by ngannou who has never boxed professionally mma champ or not. (Thank goodness for usyk showing what a real boxing champion looks like). Boxers like crawford, charlo, brooks, mikey garcia, constantly jumping up two weights for terrible fights that mostly turn into mismatches. Pacquiao at his age being fast tracked to a title shot with barrios which derailed the undisputed talks. Jake paul being ranked 14 at cruiserweiht after Chavez who never won at cruiser, Mike tyson who was damn near 60 with a myriad of health problems.

Then there is the fact that boxing in the Olympics is being removed due to too much corruption in AIBA. The talent pool in boxing was dire before its gonna be much worse. Most people don't wanna be punched in the head so it shouldn't be surprising that its dire. Sport ain't gonna die but good lord its in a terrible state outside of the lower weights like Inoue weight and lower. Once that Riyad season honeymoon period goes away its gonna be long.

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[โ€“] semioticbreakdown@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's not just boxing, the ufc also picked up a lot of brainworms after conor mcgregor came along. it's all superfights and champs ditching belts after one or none defenses, and they ditched their USADA program and its kind of widely accepted that PEDs are tacitly allowed if you keep up appearances and dont pop on the tests (there are arguments for PEDs in combat sports for recovery but the UFC is shady as hell). OTOH the org does fuck all to promote fighters bc they dont want another fighter with negotating power the way mcgregor had so theyre not actually pulling in big views. Not to mention things like jon jones' sitting on the heavyweight title and refusing to fight tom aspinall. Everyone wants to be a pro wrestling heel but the only one who was ever good at it was chael sonnen. Luckily there are guys like Pantoja, aspinall, etc, who are keeping the brand alive despite the ufc's best efforts. I haven't kept up with the sport of mma much outside of the ufc for a while so maybe the grass is greener. it's not all bad ofc but the brand is obnoxious and tacky, dana white is a clown, and I despise joe rogan. Whatever. Pride never die!

[โ€“] vegeta1@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

And the ngannou split once again bought up fighter unionisation. Couture went hard for fighter unionisation. There was too much brainworms for that to ever get going. Kiss ass company men chuds like Michael chandler will go out of their way to fuck it up You think a spot that parades trump around gives a shit with its lousy pay? Fighters in boxing will laugh at the deals dana blight will bring up. And you aren't lying about the ufc as a brand good lord it is garbage. Almost every fighter is a manchild except the Dagestan guys and the heavyweights and hell.. The way jon jones sat on the heavyweight title just to retire like that and hold up the division is disgraceful. Pereira was liked because he fought a ton and hell he may even move to heavyweight. To be honest he has the power and frame to do it although at heavyweight no one's chin is safe from those 4oz gloves