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[โ€“] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I said we were in a post truth society, then post irony society (when reality became more absurd than the onion), now we are in a post reality society, when there's practically no way for anyone to know what's going on, as photos, and videos can be believable faked. we will quickly jump to a postpast society, where the past itself can be believably faked.

was the holocaust real? here is a documentary from 1945 about it made when it was liberated, but here is another documentary that claims to be from 1945 showing it with "prisoners" happy, with a dance hall, and partying with the guards, and how they sang while working... all claim to be real, all with articles about them how theybare real, all with articles about the other one being fake.

There will be no past, objective reality will be an unreachable goal.

based on echo bubbles your neighbour will live in a very different reality than you.

things like this have been going on for a while, but it'll be so common it'll be the new normal to not have reality.

[โ€“] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

You could build cameras that crypto-graphically sign photos individually. And that capture a lightfield at least partially (maybe possible with autofocus pixels already), then you know someone isn't just capturing a monitor. This could be implemented into reputable smartphones too. If someone cracks (physically) the camera sensor/chip assembly, the certificate can be revoked after it's been found out.

Then you could design an image format where any editing step (like cropping, color mapping) is reversible and signed too.

Most of this is because we don't have a free press anymore. There are only 3 international newspapers and they have all been infiltrated or captured.

[โ€“] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

i fear that by the time those are implemented, they will be cracked.

[โ€“] haui@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Chilling prediction but likely.

The answer to that most likely is physical media and carbon dating. Back to the roots. Physical pictures with a carbon date certificate in a vacuum chamber in a museum, etc.