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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

MAD only assumes inevitability of retaliation. Mexican Standoff doctrine adds complete global proliferation so that nobody can be bullied.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You can insaneify this further:

Not only have total nuclear armament for every country on Earth...

Every country on Earth also employs Israel's Samson Doctrine.

Which is: If we're going down, we are sending a nuke at every nearby capital we can, ally, foe, neutral, doesn't matter; if we can't exist, no one can.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 12 hours ago

Which is: If we're going down, we are sending a nuke at every nearby capital we can, ally, foe, neutral, doesn't matter; if we can't exist, no one can.

And that guarantees they’re never going to be existentially threatened. Now let’s have that for everyone so it’s actually fair.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

... and it only works if all governments are rational actors that can reliably safeguard their nuclear stockpile. If either of those cease to be true, Bad Things^TM^ happen.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

You live in a state with nukes, opinion disregarded.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so it's either everybody or nobody, makes sense

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Alternative is nuclear powers do what they want to everyone else. As someone living in a non-nuclear capable state I think that’s something that should be fixed asap, for our benefit, and others must be thinking that too. Especially after how worthless security guarantees turned out to be.