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I've said this previously, and I'll say it again: we're severely under-resourced. Not just XFS, the whole fsdevel community. As a developer and later a maintainer, I've learnt the hard way that there is a very large amount of non-coding work is necessary to build a good filesystem. There's enough not-really-coding work for several people. Instead, we lean hard on maintainers to do all that work. That might've worked acceptably for the first 20 years, but it doesn't now.

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Dave and I are both burned out. I'm not sure Dave ever got past the 2017 burnout that lead to his resignation. Remarkably, he's still around. Is this (extended burnout) where I want to be in 2024? 2030? Hell no.

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[-] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 year ago

I mean, Microsoft and Apple have career pages stating exactly what is needed. Does Linux have something like this for volunteers? I think it's just very inaccessible to someone from the outside. Maybe start there, improve the recruitment of volunteers

[-] v81@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This, very very much.

I can't code for shit, but am willing to put some time and effort into FOSS.

But I'm not sure what's needed, or where is needed.

Have these projects ever considered just asking for the help they need?

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's extremely inaccessible from the outside. Non-devs don't know what to do with it.

We brought Linux laptops into our company (1500+ laptops during the pandemic) and after a year, half the devs and design team switched to Macs. The Linux users who stayed are pretty much using the laptop as a glorified netbook where they just use Google doc suites. And whenever they encounter a problem... Searching leads to nerds arguing about what version of Linux they should be using instead. Or the answer requires them to go into terminal to fix a problem.

I have a bunch of users asking about Elementary OS, for the sole reason in that it "looks" good.

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

I have a bunch of users asking about Elementary OS, for the sole reason in that it "looks" good.

Honestly I would use it for that reason too, you can install the Pantheon desktop on NixOS, but the gnome ecosystem is just too good

[-] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

This so so much. I want to contribute. The only time I ever have are when the barrier to getting setup and finding things I can do are low.

[-] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

The "open" management of bigger open source problems is a kafkaesque nightmare. If you want to help make something better and change it somehow, you have to go on week-long journeys trying to figure out who is in control of that part of the project, who you can ask for guidance, who knows anything at all...

E.g. once I wanted to help package a new version of a software for a big linux distribution... and literally all the (~10) mantainers apparently wen't missing a few years ago. I managed to find one of the mantainers private reddit account and contacted them there, and they just made me a mantainer. And I still couldn't do shit because there is another dependecy which also needs to be updated, but it's mantainers are also all dead.

The effort of even getting to the point where you could contribute something meaningful, is like 100 times more than the effort of the actual contribution. It's completely rotten.

[-] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately that's the nature of volunteer work, people just lose interest in some topics. It's worse the more niche a topic is. Sometimes your only option is to fork

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