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People in the west should stop this madness ...hek whom am I kidding ,they won't .

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[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you think we could avoid that if Russia just went home?

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes... but that isn't going to happen. We live in reality.

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So then you agree with my original statement, what are we even debating?

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Nothing, since that was my first comment. I just like pointing out to people that Russia just up and leaving... isn't a thing. Probably the only thing that works now is negotiations.

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just giving them what they want isn't a thing either.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about what the people in the Donbas want? What about what all the civilians caught up in this want? You don't give a fuck about them though this is a game to you.

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

More whatabouts are not going to change what I said.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

So you don't give a fuck about anyone's self determination you just blindly follow bourgeois nationalism, got it.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

whatabouts

Thought-terminating cliche

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

That's not what "whataboutism" refers to, it was just the same two words.

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok. I think there's a word for that... starts with n? ends with ions?

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'd like to negotiate the transfer of your home to me for free, or I start shooting.

[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

The people of crimea and the donbas don't want to be ruled by Kiev. Why do you want to force an unwanted gov on them?

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ok, but if you do that I'll also start shooting, so how about I pay a smaller sum (than my home is worth), so you don't? Cuz I don't want to go to war with you. In return you sign a non-aggression treaty.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

In that context, someone that says "shoot me, then" is a moron, whether the mugger is justified or not