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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by chalkman@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I must confess I recently went over there and agitated them a bit. I just wanted to see what their deal was because I saw a few of them over here.

TLDR they are basically like r/thedonald, libertarian types. Use slurs as a badge of honor. Angry, sad people. Fully in favor of defederation. But I get that it's early days, and defederation is a sensitive topic. I just don't see any path to that server becoming something of value that I'd want to interact with.

[-] passport@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

If you genuinely think libertarians are equivalent to r/thedonald posters, you have no clue what you're talking about. Which is why defederating based on politics is stupid.

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I never said they were equivalent. One of the most popular posts on the server is about creating an index of libertarian/right-leaning instances.

https://exploding-heads.com/post/92733

One of the most prominent users (4 month acount!) is named maga_force.

What term would you use to describe their users?

[-] passport@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I never said they were equivalent.

Comma separation implies a list of traits (users are both r/thedonald users and libertarian) whereas or/and would imply that libertarians and r/thedonald users both exist in the instance

What term would you use to describe their users?

Conservative/MAGA fits the majority of the content a lot better

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Comma separation implies a list of traits (users are both r/thedonald users and libertarian) whereas or/and would imply that libertarians and r/thedonald users both exist in the instance

Lol fair enough, thats true.

I honestly thought libertarian was the more flattering descriptor, but sure we can go with Conservative/MAGA

[-] passport@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I honestly thought libertarian was the more flattering descriptor

Yeah, so do they - that's why they try to co-opt the term lol

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Ok word. Yeah libertarians usually have some kind of rationale and principles while MAGA people are just walking memes that regurgitate spam.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Honestly most self-described right-libertarians are really differing levels of feudalists. With the uber-feudalists being the “anarcho-capitalists”. Which is the dumbest term ever but that’s not the point.

So I’m always very very suspicious of someone who says they are a libertarian…

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I don't necessarily disagree, but its helpful to remember that not everyone is at the same point in their intellectual progression. I tend to assume that libertarians haven't really gotten into the weeds yet, and they could potentially be brought around to a more sophisticated understanding by discussion and reading more. Whereas MAGA I generally have no hope of getting through to them because they don't even pretend to be rational.

[-] Harlan_Cloverseed@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Most people who think they are “libertarians” have no clue what they are talking about.

[-] niktemadur@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Proudly planting the libertarian flag on top of a few pet peeves.
Then watch them cry foul whenever libertarianism strikes in any of the soft spots they don't want touched, or don't understand through lazy ignorance. An extreme cartoonish (yet sadly real) example being something like "Keep your dirty government hands off my Medicare".

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