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[–] lady_maria@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your life experiences don't necessarily reflect those of everyone else, FYI. I've seen and heard this or some other "women are too emotional/illogical/irrational/cryptic/ect too many times.

There are relatively recent studies/surveys, like this one (PDF) that suggest that a pretty significant portion of the population still feel women are too emotional to be in politics. 13% as of 2019 in that one.

While I'd think—or at least hope—that this is still going down overall, the rise in conservativism is definitely slowing the decline.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

But your study proves my point though. The percentage was 13% across all demographics back in 2018 when the study was conducted. If you actually look at at the graphs, they all show a pretty significant and stead drop over the decades. Well, 2018 was 7 years ago, so if project the data to the modern day, it's very likely that figure is in the single digits now.

Even if we assume that the data remained steady since then, which it probably hasn't, then that means at least 87% of the population don't hold this view. That's not just a majority, that's an overwhelming majority. So while my experience is ancedotal, this shows that my experiences are actually unique but a part of much bigger societal trend.

[–] lady_maria@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you actually look at at the graphs, they all show a pretty significant and stead drop over the decades.

if you actually read my comment, I've already mentioned its decline. maybe you need a refresher. :)

means at least 87% of the population don't hold this view.

thanks. believe it or not, I do know how percentages work. But at no point did I claim that most of the population feels this way.

A group of people doesn't have to be a majority to be statistically significant. If 13% of people suddenly woke up with arms growing from the tops of their heads, you'd be noticng them all the damn time, unless you're a recluse.

This absolutely has a real-world effect on who is voted into office, especially when you also consider which demographics vote. And consequently, less exposure to women in politics in office = a slower rate of acceptance of them.

Not to mention, again, the rise of conservatism that is certainly not helping the matter.

So while my experience is ancedotal, this shows

Yeah so as I mentioned, I've had a different experience. Are you a woman? Do you frequently seek out discussions about/research on/history of women? gender studies? inequality?

Because otherwise, there's no wonder why you haven't experienced what I have.

Your experience doesn't show anything. Neither does mine, because anecdotes are not, nor ever will be, valid evidence of anything useful in discussions about social or political issues.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

A group of people doesn’t have to be a majority to be statistically significant. If 13% of people suddenly woke up with arms growing from the tops of their heads, you’d be noticng them all the damn time, unless you’re a recluse.

The central issue issue here revolves around whether or not this is percentage is significant. You specifically said that this figure is statistically significant, which means it's calculated somewhere, right? Is this something that's calculated in the report? Did you calculate yourself? If so what was the chosen neutral baseline?

If there are no calculations and this is just your opinion, then I gotta say that I disagree with you. Your making the assumption that the 13% behave as a bloc, which doesn't sound likely.

For example, it is highly unlikely that everybody who holds this opinion is a registered or active voter. According to the Census Bureau, in the 2024 election, 73.6% of eligible voters were registered and only 65.3% were registered to vote. It's also likely that many of the people who hold this opinion are still willing to vote for women candidates even if they prefer male candidates. According to a 2019 Gallup survey, 94% of Americans were willing to vote for a female president.

This conclusion is further strengthened by the survey you shared because it showed that this 13% isn't made up of just a few demographics, but rather it's spread across all demographics. Considering how different demographics vote very differently in elections, it is very unlikely that this 13% has the ability to sway elections as you seem to imply... unless you have evidence to show that it does.

Your experience doesn’t show anything. Neither does mine, because anecdotes are not, nor ever will be, valid evidence of anything useful in discussions about social or political issues.

Okay, that is fair. However, we're using actual data now, and the data seems to indicate that my original assumption is correct. This is something that's rare in our society.