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As it turns out it doesn't actually cost that much on regular transit, there's an AIRPORT SURCHARGE because it's an "airport train".

No wonder Americans don't use public transit, even when the system exists it's ridiculously difficult and expensive to use.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm glad the trains aren't luxurious. Then they would be unaffordable.

They have toilets, running water, and cheap beds. What more could you ask for?

I wish more countries would emulate Indian trains. Trains should be for everyone, not just for the rich.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I didn't say luxurious, I said lacking in basic amenities. You're absolutely right that trains should be for everyone, not just for the rich -- but everyone also deserves to travel with a certain basic level of sanitation and comfort that isn't there on a lot of Indian trains. Just because they're cheap doesn't mean they should be shit.

The toilets are filthy and unhygienic, the running water often...isn't, the bed linen has been found to be dirty and/or infested with vermin on quite a few occasions, and the general state of most trains is just bad. Over and above that, the trains themselves haven't been upgraded in years AND an increasing number of them just...aren't in service any more, which means delays, horrible overcrowding, conflict on board the train, and an overall unpleasant passenger experience that further drives people away from taking trains.

This is made a lot worse by the fact that the railway authorities here tend to focus on trying to improve the experience for actual rich people in the upper classes (ie. 1st class/AC class) who aren't even taking the train anyway -- they're flying. That means ticket prices for even the lower classes are rising, because all that money has to come from somewhere, but there's no commensurate increase in the standard of service.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

The berths on Indian trains don't have linens. Sounds like you're complaining about the rich people cars.

Overcrowding is only an issue if you didn't book a berth. That is one issue I see with the trains in India. They need to rebuild the website to be more like redbus.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I'm from here and I ride the trains up and down the length of the country fairly often, usually in sleeper class. Every class from Sleeper (SL) and up has linens -- sometimes they're hard to find or just not supplied, but they're there.

Overcrowding is an issue regardless of whether you have or haven't gotten a confirmed berth, because folks with unreserved tickets will also come crowding in (because they have to get where they're going and there simply aren't enough trains to satisfy demand) and you end up having to share your space with them even if you have a reserved seat. It's exponentially worse in the sleeper/general (sitting) cars but it happens everywhere on the train. I've shared my space with them and I've been them. It's not a pretty sight or a good experience for anyone involved.