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A lot of people only tend to look at the fuel costs and maybe parking. However you're forgetting a big part of the costs of driving which is that every km adds to the depreciation in the cars worth as well as requiring more maintenance.
It's very easy to say just buying fuel is pretty cheap, but those costs are easily doubled if you look at the full costs. Check out https://www.anwb.nl/auto/autokosten for examples of how much variable costs/km actually are.
That said, this is for solo travelers... It's true that when you add more people the costs become much lower / person if you go by car since the costs just get multiplied with public transport. Exactly why my next vacation with 4 people will still be by car...
However I've started taking the train for work now which still comes out a lot lower (40% discount outside of rush hours helps a lot too!)
Thanks for the link, I never had a look at that before. If I look at my car, the variable costs per km (without the fuel) are €0,15 per km. The fixed costs are only interesting if you don't have a car and are looking at getting one, I have to pay those costs regardless of whether I leave it at home or not. That means that taking the car in my example above would add another €18 which does change things a little bit.
However, my main point was that people would flock to public transport if they were using the prices you sometimes see in other countries. For example, in Italy it costs me around €10 to get a return ticket from Florence to Pisa. The trains are slightly less fancy of course but they're still very serviceable. If they could make it so you pay maybe €30 for a return ticket from Eindhoven to Amsterdam, it would make it a lot more enticing to take the train.
No yeah agreed I wish they'd make it cheaper too.
Depreciation and tax and insurance is mostly a sunk cost. Once you have a car, these are mostly irrelevant when comparing to public transport.
If I were to drive my car to work I would double the amount I drive per year. If you don't think this adds a lot of costs then I don't know what to tell you. If you drive somewhere incidentally sure, it doesn't really matter.
You can save on insurance if you're not commuting for work, too. I'm classified as a leisure driver since my work is remote.
I actually do work remote but come in once a week... Which happens to be a long commute 🤷♂️