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[–] Libra@lemmy.ml -2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Two things:

  1. Lolwut? I already did in my previous comment.
  2. Here, I'll do it again:

Israel isn’t some puppet dangling from Washington’s strings, it’s a sovereign state that has always done exactly what it wants, especially when it comes to killing Palestinians. From the beginning Israel was built on the ethnic cleansing of 750,000 Palestinians, and ever since it's made policy decisions based on its own goals. This current assault is just a continuation of that same logic — expansion, control, elimination — with or without (and the latter is frequently the case; see: Biden's numerous attempts to push for a ceasefire being flatly ignored until he was leaving office) America's support.

Israel had a direct hand in the rise of Hamas, supporting it in the '80s to undermine the PLO. That wasn’t the US telling them what to do — that was Israel making a calculated move to divide and conquer the Palestinian political landscape. And now, decades later, they use Hamas as the perpetual excuse for mass killings in Gaza. Israel created the conditions for this war — the siege, the blockade, the decades of systemic violence — and now it's using the fallout as justification to finish what it started.

Yes, the US plays a role: billions in aid, endless weapons shipments, UN vetoes, all of that makes the situation worse. But that’s not proof that Israel is pulling the strings. It’s just standard-issue imperial policy: the US backing a regional ally that helps secure its interests. Israel doesn’t need to control the US to get what it wants, it just needs to be useful enough that the US keeps looking the other way. Israel has shown again and again that it doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks about this war or any other; it believes that it's fighting for its very existence and has shown no reservation about doing whatever it believes is necessary to win, no matter what we or anyone else think about it. What’s happening in Gaza is the logical outcome of decades of colonization, apartheid, and unchecked power — power that Israel wields on its own terms.

So that's not just one explanation of the Gaza genocide that doesn't require kooky antisemitic conspiracy theroies, but TWO.

in the words of The Heavy: How you like me now?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Man brings up the AIPAC top recipient Joe Biden

https://israelpalestinenews.org/biden-officials-admit-they-never-pressured-israel-for-ceasefire/

It's painfully obvious you didn't watch any GDF videos because his sourcing is top tier.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Man fails to read the part where i said:

Yes, Israel has a powerful lobby in AIPAC. Yes, they spend a lot of money trying to bring our politicians in line with their goals. But we are already extremely well-aligned for cultural and geopolitical reasons, so what the claim that Israel is controlling US foreign policy amounts to is saying that a kid sticking his hand out the window of the car is materially affecting its course.

But I'm going to choose to assume that wasn't a failure of reading comprehension on your part, just that you're a troll making wild-assed statements with nothing to back them up with or you'd have made well-supported arguments instead, so I'm going to go do something more productive with my day. Have a nice life.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

"Well, yes, the US is ruining its entire global reputation backing an open genocide, but have you considered that Israelis are white?"

Bazinga great argument this really explains it all away. The massive lobby. Israel literally bragging about how they control American politicians. Their AIPAC handlers. Israel having nukes. The USS Liberty. Everything just makes so much sense now. There's a bunch a white people in Israel!

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 46 minutes ago

Please allow me to reiterate, in big letters so you can't miss it this time:

lolwut?!

Only the most pathetic 14 year old (mentally at least) edgelord with a penchant for goose-stepping and blaming people who look different than you for your problems could have possibly construed even a single word of what I said to have the slightest thing to do with skin color. sigh Welp, I won't be the person who makes you realize how patently and inherently ridiculous your bullshit is, so I retract my earlier wish for you to have a nice life. Instead I hope you live just long enough to realize what a complete raving lunatic you look like to anyone with a modicum of sense or perspective and then promptly get the fuck off my planet just like your role model did.