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I feel optimistic regarding China and Russia in their conflicts against the US, but I'm very concerned and a bit doomer towards Palestine :( (hexbear.net)

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Time is on the side of the Russians in Ukraine and the Chinese on pretty much anything else when it comes to confronting the US empire.

But ever since the ceasefire in Lebanon and the fall of Assad I can't help but feel that the Palestinian cause is getting worse every day. No one is lifting a finger for them except the Yemenis and it only seems that the Zionist fucks are getting closer to their objectives.

Civil war in "Israel" when? True Promise 3 when (lol)?

It doesn't help that some of the loudest voices cheering for Assad's fall where Palestinians and that sectarism is strong against Shia's...

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[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Did Russia have a right to defend itself against being completely surrounded by an adversarial military alliance?

I'm confused what "completely surrounded" means here? Have you looked at a map of Russia in comparison to NATO countries?

It's barely touched by NATO countries, they're only to the west and completely untouched with Mongolia/Khazakstan to the south and Asia to the east.

But absolutely it did! Assuming hypothetically it was being surrounded it had as much right to join or leave defensive alliances as they do.

Bring back the Warsaw Pact if they want. You just don't invade another country.

And if one of those countries had dared to cross over the Russian border in invasion, it had a right to defend itself from that invasion.

They had warned the West for years that they would never allow that to happen, but the West kept pushing it despite earlier "promises" not to do so. The West didn't care because they're willing to fight to the last Ukrainian for their own gain. Had Ukraine chosen to be neutral and said "no, thanks" to NATO, they wouldn't have been invaded.

Interesting justification.

How many times do I have to warn my neighbor I don't like their new security system before its okay to just take their house?

You're not distinguishing between a truly imperialist country that invades other countries completely unprovoked (see US invasion of Iraq for just one recent example) versus a country that invades another purely as a defensive, strategic move (Russia -> Ukraine/Georgia).

You're right. Invasion is not a defensive move.

Would Canada or Mexico be completely within their rights to join a full military alliance with Russia and/or China? Absolutely.

Agreed.

Would there be a positive outcome for their country and its citizens if they tried? Absolutely not. In a situation like that, neutrality or even outright support for the gorilla next door is the completely rational approach to take.

As a Canadian, I completely disagree. I'd really like some help with the 800 pound gorilla next door.

I support closer ties with China, but not Russia personally.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How many times do I have to warn my neighbor I don’t like their new security system before its okay to just take their house?

in this instance your neighbor's security system is a 40mm cannon aimed at your front door

[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And your security system is a nuclear fission bomb pointed at the entire planet

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago

we talking about russia still, or every major state in general?

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