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[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

I've been saying this for such a long time, the tech industry needs unions. It also needs crowd sourced legal assistance as well because it isn't going to be easy. They'll fire of course at first despite being illegal, then they'll want migrants that they can threaten with deportation if they don't comply. Even if Trump goes away, unions will be necessary to keep corporations accountable.

Although I don't support sabotage for the time being & strongly oppose it in almost every way. It isn't just risky, but I feel many times it ends up legitimizing the groups you're trying to protect others from. I feel it would make matters substantially worse before the potential of making things better, but at that point you may have just invited the next generation of fascism to use your actions to justify theirs.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't support sabotage for the time being

What a wild goddamn thing to say when US citizen children with cancer are being rounded up and deported to countries they’ve never lived in. Please, share. Where have you drawn the line?

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say not to draw a line. I just said I was opposed to sabbatoge for the time being. There are lots of other things you can do right now to work towards restoring diplomacy.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Great, so I’m asking you. Where is your line, beyond which sabotage is suddenly morally justified?

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

When the courts have shown multiple times that they no longer care about the constitution. Right now we have the Supreme Court ruling against the Trump admin's illegal deportations. Unfortunately it takes time for the process to play out. I am optimistic that the courts will for now maintain the checks & balances. The courts are the strongest protection against Trump's authoritarian attempts.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 minutes ago

You’ve crossed over into parody.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It isn't just risky, but I feel many times it ends up legitimizing the groups you're trying to protect others from.

Fascists don't need you to justify their fascism.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

I tend to agree, but not entirely.

The point I was making here is you start sabotaging & can end up harming people that may have been allies. As they say, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions.

Second, the more you start demanding people do what you want else you'll sabotage, attack them, etc... Your ideas really aren't that much different than those of fascists either.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No one was talking about sabotage

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Maybe go actually read the blog post before you make it so obvious that you didn't.