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Destructiveness we do not need to contribute to (lemmy.world)

submitted 8 months ago by FredVegrox@lemmy.world to c/vegan@lemmy.ml

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Animal agriculture, roads and the transportation they are used for, climate change, and more from civilization contribute to many extinctions happening continually now. Humans do not need to be part of the destructiveness of their society to this world with their choices.

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[–] CarlMarks@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago

The destructive force is capitalism, not simply humans being bad. Capitalism is a potent social force of its own, with capital, a non-human entity, at the helm. It is true that we can have a better world, one without animal agriculture, unnecessary roads, spiraling CO2, and so on. It will yake more than individuap consumer choices, however. The loudest voices that emphasize consumer choice as a mechanism for change are corporate-funded, backed by the worst exploitere and polluters to shift blame from the systemic profitable-driven enterprises they run to individuals who simply eat as they were taught growing up or need a car to get to their job.

Speaking to individuals alone is just one early step. The forces against us can just drop capital to drown out individual voices or coopt and redirect our concerns into ineffectual directions that do not challenge root causes and therefore keep them running. The only force we know that is strong enough to beat back capital is socialist organizing. To join with one another, read and learn together about the economic and social systems of oppression, and to grow and take direct action.